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Discussion: Reebok Senior Bat

Looks like there will be a new senior bat on the market soon. The Reebok Senior bat was certified about a month ago and went into production about 2 and half weeks ago.

The Reebok brass came to my Classic Spring Training event in February in force and brought some prototype bats to hit. The bats were ridiculously sick but broke rather quickly. The seniors that were there saw Davey Reed blasted some 450' bombs with it.

Since that time, I've had the pleasure to work with them in a small way on the development of this bat. They thicken the walls a bit to increase the durability. In addition, they added some kind of "new super glue" to assist in the durability department.

The latest prototype models I've hit were exceptional. Audie and I opened a brand new 28 ounce Ultra II end load right out of the wrapper and hit it along side a new 28 ounce Reebok end load bat. All three seniors hitting the Reebok bat reported 10'-20' more distance than the U-2 end load. The ball hitting the bat sounds like a 38 pistol going off. Kinda like the yellow rip it bat sound.

I don't yet know the date this will be available or the retail cost. I do know it will come in a balanced and end loaded versions from 26 ounces to 30 ounces.

Now, this is where I'm asking for your help. I'm trying to assist them in figuring out the percentages of bats to buy for each weight, both balanced and end loaded. You could help if you would be kind enough to take just a minute and respond back with what weight bat you swing and is it balanced or end loaded.

Thanks for your help,
curt hollis

curt
look like a great bat look forward to get one let me know when and where
thanks don
Hi Curt,
Sounds like a nice bat. I prefer a 30 ounce end load. How about sending me a demo for the MTC guys to test out? : )
George
MTC 55's
#44
Curt
I use a 27 ounce balanced bat. Sounds like this might be a good model to try.
KC Barons would love to test one out too.
Curt, I hope Reebok has found the right combination of pop and durability.
I swing a 29 or 30 endload.
Curt,

Sounds like something I'd like to test also...26 / 27 oz balance & Endloaded
Curt, I hit with that bat at your camp and it was still hot even after it had cracked.

I swing a 27 U II. What kind of effect do you think it will have after they beefed up the walls, etc.
Ed
Scrap Iron/Phiten 60's
Colorado
Curt a 28oz end load
Joe Lefy Falcon #8
Wild Bunch Softball 60 Majors
I was at the Western Nationals in Lacey, Wa a few weeks ago and this young man showed me a new senior bat, it was made by Baden. Ax handle and it cost $140.00. If the bat is like the ball, it won't sell.
Curt, I hit several of the Reeboks at CST this spring. I liked the way the senior bat hit, but several times it stung my hands. Have they addressed this issue? Or did anyone else have this issue?

I swing a 28oz. end load
I'm going see what they can do about getting us some demos bats. I'll let you guys know.

Ed, I hit some with the thicker walls and they still dropped some serious bombs. I haven't hit then since they added the new glue. I'm waiting on a actual production model now.

Jim, I've hit both versions, end-loaded and balanced, and didn't notice any vibration. I have not yet to hit the production model. When I do I'll post a full report.
c
Curt.
Sounds great.
I can help you demo-nstrate
in NorCal.
2000 players.
Let me know.
Joe
Hey Joe,
Thanks for offering! Shoot me your e-mail address to curt@classicspringtraining.com
Anyone else interested can do the same!
Thanks,
curt
Great and thanks, Curt.
Curt ... would like to hit with this also ... see you in a couple of weeks at the FHC.

Conman
Dave Alarcon
Hey Dave, no problem!

Though we are only talking about demoing bats now in the future this could change so all my future updating on this bat will be on my website so as not to violate any rules of this board.

Thanks,
curt
curt@classicspringtraining.com
Would also like a demo to test out here in Canada g_masters@shaw.ca I swing a 27 balanced
top gun 50s san diego ca
would like to demo please email me tata59@rocketmail.com
thanks
Xavier.
Hey Guys,
Earlier this afternoon I officially accepted Reebok International's
offer to become their ambassador to senior softball. I'm extremely
grateful and excited to join the Reebok family. I am also looking
forward to joining Hank Garris as a Reebok sponsored softball
player. This is a position I don't believe I even remotely deserve.
However, I will do my utmost to promote Reebok's new line of
softball equipment to senior softball players across America.

curt hollis
Way to go, Curt.
They couldn't have picked a better guy/player/rep.
Congratulations Curt!! A well deserved appointment for someone who has done a lot for the game.
Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow and taking a few hacks.
We played in the Southern Championships tournament in Birmingham this weekend. There was one team from Memphis that was swinging a Reebok bat. It was black with a white Reebok emblem. If that is the bat you are talking about you might want to get into different teams hands so that people can see what the bat can do. Hopefully it was a brand new bat and they were still trying to break it in.
That Reebox bat was probably the Usssa or ASA version.
Donnie
Curt, We will breakin this bat & I will let you know how it compares to my Macenko or Ultra2 - Worth Toxic etc...

Send a demo to:

Dwight Treadwell
1780 Glenview Ave
Memphis, TN 38114

treadeast@yahoo.com

GA/Al Masters & Monster Softball (Memphis)
I play rightcenter for Ameriprise. Beachburn is correct. The bat I used was borrowed from a Nashiville area sporting goods to try out. It was a blue Reebok with a large emblem. It was unique because it had 3 oval holes about 8 inches below the handle. It was marked ASA/USSSA/NSA. I did'nt see Senior on this bat. We are AA, no home runs. This bat hit well and the 3 holes was interesting but not the Chollis mentioned. Big D probably would have added a fourth hole to it the way he launches.
The bat you used was the Reebok Vector O, it was the USSSA version, not the senior bat. The 2011 senior bat will not have the holes in the handle....I think they are thinking seniors are set in their ways and would resist change. LOL. I have seen a number of the Vector O's in action and they hit the ball well. I have one myself.
P.E. I hope I didn't offend any one but that bat didn't have a lot of pop and you did have some guys who hit well with it anyway. Thats why I thought it may need to be broken in but seeing it was not a senior bat that explains it.

Chollis hope the bat works out well for you.

Big D what position do you play? I think we play on the same team(yeah that sounds sad). I just don't know your last name or what state you live in. Guess that comes from me being new to the team. We have a BIG D that plays/played for us.
Don (sometimes shortstop/3rd base/2nd base/ where ever)
I hope the bat is as good as your report. I swing a 28oz balanced, then drop to a 26oz end load.
Beachbum, "Don" - I overlooked your quote - earlier. It is just a rumor That I hit the ball a mile - I actually get "lucky" quite a few times?? The perfect Storm blows when I am at the Plate (i.e - Wind blowing out , Using a great ball, and my bat fully broken in - and the pitcher just lays a room service strike down the middle!! What else could a Player ask for?? (Smile!!!)

Thanks for your kindness
Big D
Hey Beachbum, no offense taken here...your just telling it like it is.

On another note, I'm scheduled to receive some bats today that are being flown in for "show". Lookie, touchie, feelie but no hit'ie. These bats will be used in some photo shoots and then taken to a few upcoming tournaments for the guys to see.

Still no word on the demos, they are coming over with the regular shipment by ship.

curt
Anyone know if they will be on the market and approved in time for Huntsman?
Hey Hitsone,

Both versions of the Reebok senior softball bat have been tested for the 1.21 BPF and they both have passed this test and are approved for senior softball standards. I think the release date is January 1, 2011. There will be few demos available in a few weeks. I'll be taking demo request thru Tuesday at 5:00pm and then the selection process will begin.

Thanks,
curt hollis
curt@classicspringtraining.com
They also sent me a couple personal bats to hit and give them some feedback on. I hit a round with my brother, Audie, earlier today using 44/375 balls. We used a 28 ounce end load and hit directly into a stiff wind coming in from left center. We both hit from the right side but right out of the wrapper the bat had no problem with 300' into the wind. We put 70 swings on it. The bat feels good and has a nice sweet-spot. I know I can't be considered impartial because of my connection to Reebok. Audie, on the other hand, doubted the production model would hang with his red, end loaded Ultra II. I knew going in he would be my toughest critic....After we got done, he said he was impressed......and he wants his Hollis Appraisal team to go exclusively with the new Reebok senior bats. Whew...relief!
Curt if you are looking for input I would be willing to take one of your demos to St George to be used by the Canadian teams (and US when we are not playing). We are also going to Ferndale in 2 weeks and could have it critiqued there as well.
I'd like to try the new senior reabok bat. I hit with a friend 5 times a week and I'm not that big of a guy so I can give the small guy opinion on the bat. Bruce Fairchild knows me.
Joe Lefty Falcon
joehilfalcon@musician.org
curt i guess i'll wait till CST to check it out,as it looks like you ill have more than enough to test it.

joe u r a masher,tho LOL
Just wanted to give you guys a update on the Reebok senior bat. I'm putting a production model 28 ounce end load through its paces. The bat is performing very well but that is not what I wanted to report. I got to say I've been really impressed with the durability. Here is a rundown on the sessions.
Saturday - 70 swings - Me/Audie Hollis (Major Plus)
Sunday - 60 swings - Me/Audie Hollis (Major Plus)
Monday - 45 swings - Glen Smith (AAA)
Tuesday - 70 swings - me/Audie Hollis (Major Plus)
Thursday - 155 swings - me/Audie Hollis/Randy Parker/Steve Dorrell (Major Plus)
The bat currently has 400 swings on it with 355 swings by major plus players that hit with very good power. I break a lot of bats and get 60-80 swings out of Launch 510, about 100 to 150 out of an Ultra and roughly 300+/- out of the Combat. These other major plus players break bats but not at I rate I do. Personally I think I have roughly 150 swings on this bat. I never thought this bat would last 400 swings with these guys swinging it. The bat still looks good, it has some fine spider cracking. No rattles yet.
Update: The Reebok senior bat currently has 542 swings on it with 457 swings by major plus players.
Curt, what balls are you hitting? 44/375? Rocks? Maybe a mixture?
Is this the same model bat that was being raffled off at last years TOC?
Three holes where the bat tapers?
The balls we are hitting are left over from February's Classic Spring Training event. They are 44/375 Trump Stotes.

This is not the bat that was raffled off at last years TOC. The bat you are describing sounds like the Reebok Vector O. This is a new senior bat and it does not have the holes in the handle.

The swing count has risen to to 628 wings with 517 swings put on by major plus players with good power.
chollis Good to meet you this weekend in Dalton. Had good response from my players about the Reebok Senior bat. My Smith's Laminating team won the 50 AAA. Will be moving to Major next year will need an edge let's talk. Thanks Gary Houchen
I hit this bat in Dalton over the weekend and it is HOOOOOOOOOT!!!!! I swung it 11 times hit 8 bombs, 4 of which are still going, 2 line drives and 1 that would have been a hard out. The best senior bat I have ever swung. If this bat is more durable , look out MIKEN here comes REEBOK. I swing a endloaded 29 oz.
Gary33 are you looking to pick up any Major players for next year?
Mario, we're just enjoying the victory right now. Not thinking about next year.
Gary33, enjoy the victory. If and when you guys start thinking about next year give me a shout. We should have been the team you guys played for the championship. We lost 2 games by 1 run down there.
Gary33 just to clarify, I am interested in a couple of your players if you fuys are picking up some Major players.
Oops, thats supposed to be guys, not fuys.
I finally got a chance to swing this bat over the weekend and I was very impressed.

Although I normally swing a 27 oz balanced bat, I took some cuts in BP with a 28 oz end loaded Reebok. I didn't take very many swings with it because we were getting loose for a game, but the ball jumped off the bat.

After going through a couple bats a year, I'm really looking forward to getting this bat in my hands and being able to get used to it and swing it for a whole year.
CURT - I ENJOYED HITTING THE REEBOK SENIOR BAT THIS PAST WEEKEND AT THE SPA TOURNEY IN DALTON, GA (WE DID WIN!!)

THE BAT WAS OUTSTANDING FROM MY POINT OF VIEW - THE 28OZ ENDLOAD WAS THE BEST FIT FOR ME! I WILL LET OTHERS COMMENT ON THE RESULTS!!!!
Curt ... took about a dozen swings with the 28 oz endload Reebok this weekend and was impressed with the pop the bat had. Tell Mark thanks.

Durability is a major issue with me .. have broken 3 Miken Ultras (one more this past weekend)in the past few months. 2 had less than 100 cuts on them and momma ain't letting loose of her wallet anytime soon!

Hopefully this bat will be the answer.

Dave Alarcon
Conman

Curt sorry I missed hitting the Reebok bat this weekend. I was looking forward to it after talking to you about it. I was the guy that was late because of *** messing up the times and I really wanted to hit it before our game. I see that Big D from TN did get to hit and if he says he enjoyed hitting it I sure its a very good bat.Even though they had trouble with the schedule we still manage to win the 55AAA. I guess that is what its all about. Welcome to the Majors
GO GA/AL MASTERS Beachbum #4 SS
Curt and too all who hit the new Reebok bat. I also hit with the new bat,yes it was as a nice bat.It felt the same as a U-2, it hit the same as my new U-2"special edition". As far as "pop",i'm a ok power hitter,i can use any "senior" bat and hit a home run,to me it comes to durability,not many of us can spend the money on these bats.If Reebok wants to sell these bats,put a warrenty on them.For me i'll stick with my Yellow Combat.
Thanks guys for stopping by and hitting the new Reebok senior softball bat in Dalton, Georgia. I really enjoyed talking with you guys. Dwight, your an animal! Good thing Reebok sent me 6 dozen new balls cause you were losing mine left and right!

Dave and company, glad you guys got to swing it in Altamonte Sunday, In heard Mark put on a show with it Saturday.

curt hollis
curt@classicspringtraining.com
Curt

If you're looking for feedback send us a couple and we will pass them around at the tournaments for the guys to try. We have several teams compete at each tournament and I'd be glad to send you feedback. Also if they are looking for advertising I'd also be glad to discuss this. Web site and banner advertising is very affordable with us.

Marv
www.socalssa.com
chollis I believe I warned you about Big D from TN. Your lucky he left you any for the rest of the guys to hit. "He is an animal" a big ole teddy bear, but I would hate to see him ever get mad. Beachbum
Curt, Would you please give me a call regarding the email you sent to me a couple weeks back. I appreciate it bro.
Ed A
(970) 728-3144/729-3145
I been trying out this new Reebok Seniors bat this week and it is the hottest thing I have ever swung. Tuesday
evening I hit 25 out of 40 balls over 320 ft. I hit 3 or 4 400 ft. Those of you who know me will say that I can hit that far with anything, but I'm here to tell you that this bat is special. Our pitcher swung it and he is not a power hitter, 5'9" 170 lbs, and hit one 330 ft. He also says its the hottest thing he has ever swung. This bat is a 29 oz. endload and he normally swings a 26 oz.
Right now i have 190 swings on it and it still looks brand new. My suggestions to all the seniors out there, GET ONE NOW!!!!!!!!
mario are ya'll hitting the same sock balls we normally use in the tourneyments. What was the temp. 80 degrees or 95 degrees. And from what you 2 guys are saying about the reebok senior it want take long before they ban it. I was going to buy one but I think I'll just wait and see.
Mario, it because you are a beast! 6'5" 260 lbs with no body fat and you have a great swing.....they should ban him, not the bat! LOL.

It hits right there with the Ultra so if one goes, so should the other. It is showing some durability, which is sorely needed.

Ed, I'll drop you a line or you can call me at (904) 303-7798
curt

I must ask who do I contact to get more information and price of this bat? I like the U2 but in the back of your mind you wonder if this is the last hit for the bat even when it is new.
Thanks:

James

Thanks:

James
The temperature was 85 degrees and we were hitting 44/375 balls
JamesLG you can pre-order them now online at classicspringtraining.com, they list for 199.95. Well worth the extra 20 you paid for your U2.If you want to talk to me you can call me at 317-281-0734.
Thanks for the info MARIO
If your 6 ft.5 in. and weigh 260 lbs., you should be able to hit them out with any bat !
#6 Your right and I can, but this bat already has lasted longer than any Miken U2 that I have used this year.
Curt,
just got back from Hemet ca scssa tourney. great bat out of the wrapper, tom chilton plays on are top gun 50's team and he had a 27 oz. this bat is the real deal.great feel & pop, to be honest this bat will out hit any other senior bat.who is your socal rep? please fill free and contact me at tata59@rocketmail.com i also called you last night and left my phone # thanks xavier.
Curt,

Will you be in Ft Meyers? Our Fat Nancy's 50 AAA (NY) would love the opportunity to swing the Melee before then. How can we get our hands on a couple?
Hell Curt
Let me jump on the band wagon..are you going to be anywhere close to Austin,Texas. ?
#6 I am the texas rep and I will bring one down for you guys to try if you can set up a place for bp.
You can email me at obagain@yahoo.com
I also have a discount code for preorders bwtx10fs and you can order from www.softballrevolution.com
obagain,
I am a Tanel 360 rep for Texas...maybe we can "barter".........would love to try it and buy it or "barter" it ?
Call me 512-264-0067 or 512-663-3194.We have a place to hit, where are you coming from and when will you be in Austin ?

Kenny

kray@austin.rr.com
Great to talk to you Kenny, hope to see you tomorrow in Austin.
Bob,
I have already emailed the players, looks like tomorrow around 3- 3:30 ?
hey bob,there is a senior tourney there in Georgetown on the 6th of nov.
be careful of that #6,he is slightly,well what can i say.....DOH,LOL...
mad dog,
Go take your medicine..........I am not there so I know you won't have any beer.
Kenny, 3 is good, text me the address and I will put it in my gps.
hey, me no worry,ed will be there...DOH,LOL.....
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