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Is the infield fly rule based on physical ability to catch the ball?

» Turbobob: What circumstances does the physical ability or inability of the ...
      »B.J.: Turbo... you just have to judge the play itself.. that being said if ...
      »lb16: Ump got it right on this one by your description of play.
      »titanhd: UMPIRE GOT IT RIGHT!???? when first and second are occupied or ...
      »stick8: Generally thatís true Floyd but there are situations where the rule ...
      »B.J.: titanhd.. the rule also says with ordinary effort.. how does an ...
      »lb16: titanhd as usual not reading the whole description of the rule "A ...
      »Garocket: If you are going to judge the defensive players you will also have to ...
7 May 25, 2018 305

Rules Question - Player being tossed (Milwaukee Tourney)

» dug8: Looking to get clarification on a ruling - 2 outs and runner on ...
      »DaveDowell: dug8 ... Assuming we have all of the facts despite not being there, ...
      »B.J.: Dave, question.. I know an ejected player can be replaced by an ...
      »DaveDowell: If he was his own runner (and not a CR), a substitute or CR could run ...
      »dug8: Dave - Thanks for stating other scenarios that I may not have thought ...
      »DaveDowell: "Probably" a good substitution, but only if the "next man up" is a ...
      »B.J.: Dave, an injured CR can be replaced with another CR he does not need ...
      »DaveDowell: Opppsss ... My bad and your good catch!
      »Nancy Allen: In all my years officiating, I have only had to eject 2 in the game ...
      »stick8: Questions for BJ or Dave Extra inning, last batter to be up the ...
      »B.J.: stick.. the runner must advance to 3rd before getting a CR.. and yes ...
      »B.J.: stick.. also on the runner who starts at 2nd if for some unknown ...
      »stick8: Thanks BJ. I wasnít sure about the two runners at the same time.
12 May 25, 2018 686

Field players using mitts instead of a gloves on defense.

» Steve in Tucson: Our team recently played an SSUSA non-sanctioned tournament in ...
      »Panther: Steve, See the Summary of Significant Rule Changes ...
      »k man: Steve, on the main message board there are 3 sections in pink that ...
      »DaveDowell: Steve ... We print the "hard copy" Rulebook every other year, and ...
      »Dbax: Curious as to the reasoning behind this change?
      »DaveDowell: Dbax ... The "allow mitts for all players" change [1] brought SSUSA ...
      »Dbax: Thanks Dave. I see some players with 15" gloves now. Are they legal? ...
      »Jawood: The bigger, the better! It's survival in the field with these bats!
      »Steve in Tucson: Thank you all for the confirmation. This was a looooooong discussion ...
      »vquinton21: I'm sorry but whether it's 15 inch glove, a mitt, a couch cushion.. ...
      »DaveDowell: VQ ... A long time ago, a guy who I thought was an "old guy", but ...
10 May 21, 2018 591

Commitment line

» Mike Igneri: Yesterday as a third baseman, I chased the runner toward home. He ...
      »DaveDowell: SAFE is the correct call ... The rule prohibits a tag on the home ...
      »OMD: Another scenario - (local league - self umpped) runner heading home ...
      »k man: OMG OMD You must be afraid of commitment! Cannot return to 3rd ...
      »B.J.: OMD.. no, once the runner crosses the commitment line he must ...
      »DCPete: OMD don't quit your day job. There's a reason it's called the Commit ...
      »OMD: Not really afraid of commitment - you can ask any of my 6 ex-wives or ...
      »stick8: Mike, allow me to further specify on your scenario. As Dave correctly ...
      »jl1919: Does the runner have to be completely over the commitment line?
      »DaveDowell: NOPE ... One foot "down", on or beyond the commitment line, triggers ...
9 May 16, 2018 1065

Pitching rules- use of a windup

» Itallion Stallion: I have a question regarding pitching rules section 6.7D. It says the ...
      »B.J.: what that means is that once you start your forward motion you can ...
      »Turbobob: Another interesting aspect with Section 6.7 F "The pitcher must ...
      »DaveDowell: Turbobob ... Yes, you are correct ... One time (only) past the hip is ...
3 May 15, 2018 435

Strike board/mat

» OZ40: Was watching a game today in the middle division of our league. We ...
      »k man: Rule 7.4B Dead Ball
      »OZ40: I don't know if I gave enough information, the batter actually did ...
      »B.J.: oz.. the entire strike mat is now in fair territory so if the batter ...
      »k man: BJ is correct, I was thinking swing and miss, dead ball. Otherwise ...
      »OZ40: My thought exactly...great minds thinking alike!
5 May 15, 2018 451

Runner's right to the base

» Wayne 37: This happened a few weeks ago. There was a runner on 3B. The ...
      »B.J.: Wayne, the runner on the bag does not have to move to get out of the ...
      »DCPete: Your "contention" is entirely incorrect; try looking up the word ...
      »Wayne 37: DC Pete Apparently you don't have any judgment capabilities. ...
      »B.J.: Wayne, in your original scenario you say that the runner was ...
      »DCPete: Ok Wayne how about SSUSA Rule 8.2 C.1 - "If the Runner is hit with a ...
      »Wayne 37: DCPete, I assume you mean 8.2(1)C which reads: If the ...
      »DCPete: Wayne, have no idea what you're talking about; here's the phrase from ...
      »Wayne 37: ...........and HENCE the keys words C. WHEN HE (BATTER) HITS A FAIR ...
      »Wayne 37: DEFINITIONS: 1.45 INTERFERENCE. Interference is the act of an ...
      »B.J.: Wayne, AGAIN the base is a "safe haven" for the runner and he does ...
      »DCPete: Come on Wayne, a runner standing on a base is NOT Impeding or ...
      »grayhitter59: So let me get this straight, you want the runner who is on the bag to ...
      »The Screamer5: BJ is spot on. The runner does not have to give up his legal position ...
      »DaveDowell: TS5 ... There simply are some plays where, by definition, the ...
      »Wayne 37: And why no rule citation? Please provide that and maybe we can get ...
      »lb16: Wayne 37, why don't you cite the rule that says runner has to while ...
      »Wayne 37: In reply to your post, 1b16, I posted the definition of interference ...
      »lb16: Key sentence in rule " A base runner MUST avoid a fielder making a ...
      »B.J.: Wayne, hopefully this will show you that the runner doesn't have to ...
      »Wayne 37: Dearest lb16, Batted ball hits runner on base, the runner is out ...
      »B.J.: Wayne, As far as having to umpire I have been umpiring senior ...
      »DCPete: Sorry Wayne but your "judgment" doesn't have priority over the actual ...
      »yerwombat: It sounds like the umpire didn't see any interference
      »lb16: Wayne 37- B.J. just cited rule that applies to this situation, and ...
      »mad dog: hey wayne....please tell me where that runner should stand on the ...
      »lb16: mad dog- Your'e wasting your time with him on this one. For some ...
      »stick8: Wayne37, this is a judgement call. The runner at third, as BJ ...
      »Wayne 37: Here is the thing. Baseball rules are often worded poorly. This one ...
      »AJC: Wayne, with all due respect, both of your rule interpretations in the ...
      »B.J.: Dave, PLEASE, it's time to close this post.. nothing more can be ...
      »yerwombat: Your premise that the baseruuner is causing contact is flawed. The ...
      »Wayne 37: You don't have to close it, Dave. Others might want to chime in. I ...
      »stick8: Wayne37, judgement is judgement and only you as the umpire have to ...
      »Wayne 37: It is certainly safe to say some people don't mind getting trampled ...
      »stick8: Wayne thatís fine if you get out of the way and stay on the bag. Most ...
      »DaveDowell: Wayne 37 ... B.J. and stick8 are correct ... Your entire argument ...
      »Wayne 37: Dave and others......where does it state SPECIFICALLY what is ...
      »DaveDowell: Wayne 37 ... As B.J. was so kind to report earlier, I'm going to give ...
      »mck71: Sorry Dave, I have to add this 1 question: Wayne - what happens IF ...
      »Nancy Allen: BJ, after having a very long weekend and having a very long week ...
      »B.J.: Thx. Nancy I look forward to it
      »txnighttrain: This is an umpire judgement call. I umpire and rarely has that ever ...
      »Omar Khayyam: Here are a few potential scenarios as to why the runner should just ...
      »lb16: After all has been said and done this Wayne 37 clown still thinks a ...
      »DaveDowell: Deafening silence thus far, interrupted only by the occasional chirp ...
      »B.J.: chirp..
46 May 1, 2018 1525

Courtesy Runner on field before Time Out

» Jerry66: What is the umpire's call when a would-be courtesy runs on the ...
      »B.J.: Jerry, unless the c/r caused some confusion allowing another runner ...
      »Nancy Allen: Actually I have had more potential issues with a runner stepping off ...
      »DaveDowell: But you have to tip your cap to the 3B coach for buying into the ...
      »Nancy Allen: Dave, it's hard to tip your cap when your ponytail is through the ...
4 May 1, 2018 326

Runner can advance

» Wayne 37: What are the three situation a base runner can advance on a fly ball?
      »SMOKE707: Over the fence home run Catch and carry Tag up
      »Wayne 37: Smoke, the first two you mentioned are dead ball awards. I'm looking ...
      »DaveDowell: Infield fly rule (at runner's risk)
      »Wayne 37: Dave, I will accept your answer as it pertains to a fair batted ball. ...
      »B.J.: as soon as it is hit
      »DaveDowell: We'll feed these one at a time to see if anyone else jumps in! ... ...
      »B.J.: yes but then it becomes as wayne says.. awarded bases (3) or 4 if the ...
      »DaveDowell: Agreed, B.J. ... But my answer is correct and completely responsive ...
      »DaveDowell: B.J ... And here's another correct answer to the question as asked ...
      »Wayne 37: Since you can't answer the question, I'll give you the answer. 1) ...
      »DaveDowell: Plus the other three I mentioned, all of which you may be able to ...
      »Wayne 37: B.J. writes: yes but then it becomes as wayne says.. awarded bases ...
      »B.J.: lmao wayne you just wont give up.. the difference in the 4 base ...
      »txnighttrain: Just remember, you can tag up when the ball is first touched, not ...
      »Nancy Allen: Actually technically a runner can advance whenever they want. They ...
      »Nancy Allen: Yes, BJ, or by being off the bag and being tagged of course. I ...
16 April 30, 2018 405

Runner on first base

» baseballbill: Runner is on first base and a ground ball is hit at the first base ...
      »crusher: Runner hurt and falls down while still touching 1st. The first ...
      »B.J.: bill.. again any play like this is umpire judgement.. did the runner ...
      »baseballbill: Thanks B.J.
      »Wayne 37: No judgment of interference is necessary. Batted ball hit runner, ...
      »stick8: Baseballbill, SSUSA, dead ball batter is awarded first and any ...
      »Wayne 37: stick8, what scenario would a baserunner be force to advance in SSUSA?
      »stick8: Wayne37, Iím not sure what youíre getting at with the question but ...
      »Wayne 37: Stick8, I'm asking when a runner is forced to advance when a runner ...
      »OMD: Another question - runner on first - 1st basemen is playing 2-3 steps ...
      »B.J.: OMD .. The defense can position there self in the baseline before a ...
      »coop3636: Correct me if I am wrong, but... If a runner is hit by a ball while ...
      »B.J.: coop.. if a runner is hit by a batted ball while in contact with a ...
      »stick8: Wayne I have an idea but Iím not totally sure what baseballbill meant ...
      »stick8: Coop3636 thats the rule in usssa. BJ stated the correct rule in ...
      »Wayne 37: Dang, I've never heard of a ruleset where a runner being hit with a ...
      »B.J.: wayne.. lol.. the rule set discussed on this forum should be SSUSA ...
      »stick8: Wayne, I think we can all agree if the runner is off the bag and gets ...
17 April 30, 2018 574

Dead ball ground rule double situation.

» baseballbill: Umpire ruled dead ball ground rule double. Batter stopped at first ...
      »SSUSA Staff: This case should probably let common sense (which isn't all that ...
      »baseballbill: Thanks, That exactly what the umpire ruled.
      »DaveDowell: baseballbill ... There's a bit of a (meritorious) dissenting opinion ...
      »marcster13: Always amazes me that guys will take any shortcut they can. Aren't we ...
      »smitty63: wow, Just when I thought i was starting to figure out what a runner ...
      »B.J.: Dave's 2nd answer is the one I would go with.. A batter that has been ...
      »stick8: Baseball bill was this in a house league or a sanctioned ssusa ...
      »B.J.: stick8 on your situation a few years ago.. Just so you know for in ...
      »txnighttrain: First line of Rule 8.4(1) "Each batter must reach first base without ...
      »stick8: BJ, as always you are correct on that. I was playing middle in a 5 ...
      »BillC48: Similar situation - Batter hits the ball over the fence for a home ...
      »B.J.: SSUSA has hit and sit with no requirement to touch 1st base.. there ...
      »DaveDowell: B.J. ... While I agree with you conceptually, the "hit-and-sit" ...
      »fennellwg: My condolences Dave D. This is probably the third time in as many ...
      »DaveDowell: Thanks Bill ... It's that time of the year when there's not enough ...
      »baseballbill: Dave: You said it earlier in the message: COMMON SENSE should prevail ...
      »stick8: BillC48, if this scenario was in an ssusa tournament no penalty. ...
      »Wayne 37: Dave Dowell A homerun is the only four base award. How are you ...
      »Wayne 37: Sorry, left this out. In this situation, I maintain the batter ...
      »B.J.: Wayne.. 8.4(7) ē FOUR-BASE AWARD Any fair ball touched by a player ...
      »Wayne 37: B.J. ~ A 440 ft. moonshot over the fence is also a four base award as ...
      »B.J.: Wayne, you asked if there was another 4 base award that you didn't ...
      »Wayne 37: B.J. ~ you can't award four bases without it being a HR even if it ...
      »B.J.: wayne.. yes you can and here is a example.. a fly ball hit to the ...
      »k man: This one happened in our tournament game in VA Beach last week. 5th ...
      »Wayne 37: Technically, you have to wait until the first batter being walked has ...
      »SSUSA Staff: ß8.2 ē BATTER BECOMES A BATTER-RUNNER A. ... B. When four pitched ...
      »Wayne 37: I can see the ball being dead in slow pitch due to the no steal rule ...
      »k man: BTW, in our game having the 1st intentional runner called out would ...
      »stick8: Wayne37, Iím not sure about ssusa but in usssa if an outfielder has a ...
30 April 26, 2018 1276

double bag at 1st

» k man: Just curious about rule interpretation for rule 2.3C4 Once a ...
      »B.J.: K.. once the runner has "attained" 1st base the double base is ...
      »SSUSA Staff: B.J. has it ... The double-bag rule applies only to a batter-runner ...
      »k man: Thanks BJ and Staff, I've just assumed the managing role so I am ...
3 April 21, 2018 196

Foul Tip vs Foul Ball

» txnighttrain: Rule 1.29 Foul Tip: A foul tip is a batted ball that goes directly ...
      »Krinkles: I umpired USSSA games and the caught foul ball rule was that any ...
      »B.J.: TX... read the rule again the end of the last sentence before the ...
      »txnighttrain: The effect actually says "the ball is dead on all foul tips and the ...
      »B.J.: TX.. yes you are correct it does.. and the same result for a foul ...
      »SSUSA Staff: A foul tip is NOT a foul ball, by definition (see below) and, ...
      »STL0: A batter doesn't deserve another swing if you hit a "foul tip". That ...
      »B.J.: Dave.. Then I'm not reading this rule correctly... Any batted ball ...
      »SSUSA Staff: B.J. ... Don't over read Definition ß1.29 ... The FIRST sentence ...
      »Wayne 37: Really no reason to have a foul tip rule in softball. All that's ...
9 April 21, 2018 766

Games between different rankings

» BubbleHead96: I understand the equalizer rule, however how do the runs work with M+ ...
      »BruceAZ: BH, the way it went for us in the Spring Worlds when we, a M team ...
      »TimMcElroy: Whenever there is an equalizer rule in effect, the teams play to the ...
2 March 30, 2018 354

safety bag

» grayhitter59: Staff I have a questions due to rule changes. When a ball never ...
      »SSUSA Staff: grayhitter59 ... In response to your statement and questions ...
      »grayhitter59: thank you
      »DieselDan: 5) Can the pitcher kick the ball over to the 1st baseman? Not ...
      »DaveDowell: Yep ... "Kick saves" are permitted (or at least not prohibited!) ...
4 March 26, 2018 518

legal players

» bucs15: Over the last couple years I've seen more and more players playing on ...
      »SSUSA Staff: bucs15 ... Over the past couple of years, there have been some ...
      »birdie: bucs15, Just out of curiosity, have you notice this in all 3 ...
2 March 25, 2018 755

Ground rule double/courtesy runner

» Randall: We had a situation where the batter/runner hit a ball off the fence ...
      »stick8: Randall, was this in a sanctioned SSUSA tournament or a house league? ...
      »Linknblue: You have to touch the bases. If the defense "appealed properly" then ...
      »B.J.: Linknblue.. actually the appeal can be made by any defensive player
3 March 25, 2018 367

pitcher getting hit

» maskedman: i just watched a senior game on youtube this morning from 2016 ...
      »maskedman: my mistake. wrong game. it was last year SA CRUSH vs TX VETS. same ...
      »DaveDowell: maskedman ... Take a look at Rule Book ß6.18 ē INTENTIONALLY HITTING ...
      »B94: I don't think anyone hits up the middle intentionally at the pitcher, ...
      »Fred S: B94: Unfortunately there are some. We had two in our league at one ...
      »stick8: This rule is akin to pitchers in Major League Baseball. If a pitcher ...
      »softball4b: Bat control fades as with your physical abilities with age. There ...
      »SOFTBALLNUTZ: softball4b I agree with you 100% A few years ago several ...
      »DaveDowell: Mike and NUTZ ... Reminder of the four modern stages of bat control ...
      »softball4b: There is bat control and then there is controlling everything ...
      »The Screamer5: Maskedman, I was there at the game you referenced. It was a one day ...
      »SOFTBALLNUTZ: I welcome you to come to Lorenzi Park in Las Vegas to test out you ...
      »maskedman: it didnt appear to be intentional thats why i was curious.ive pitched ...
      »Fleck14: I have found that one of most helpful things an umpire can do to ...
      »DaveDowell: Fleck14 ... BINGO! ... You nailed it ... This should be an area of ...
      »B.J.: Fleck you are correct not enough umpires enforce this.. that is why ...
      »ESteiner25: As a pitcher, I understand the risk of standing in the middle of the ...
      »garyheifner: There is a very powerful hitter we see often who goes hard middle, ...
      »West Coast Mayhem #00: I have no problem enforcing players in the box. My issue is, you ...
      »Jon44: It seems all batters boxes are not created equal. For example, the ...
19 March 9, 2018 1798

MITTS

» garyheifner: If I read the rule changes correctly, anyone can now wear a mitt. I ...
      »Omar Khayyam: As a pitcher and an older player, I have thought about using a mitt ...
      »txnighttrain: New rule permits any player on field to wear a mitt.
      »curveball: nighttrain I was under the ASSumption the mitt rule was added for ...
      »k man: ssusa added that any position can use a mitt effective 2018 while ...
      »curveball: Interesting K Man, thanks for the update.
      »txnighttrain: Curveball, you shouldn't ASSume someone is wrong until you read the ...
      »curveball: txassnighttrain, point well taken. (I book rooms in both early in the ...
7 March 9, 2018 852

Scorekeeping

» 20boy1: In a recent tournament (Las Vegas). Western Nationals, a scoring ...
      »B.J.: the umpires on the field are in charge of keeping the score and as ...
1 March 4, 2018 388
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