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out or safe» shortstop33: Batter hits ground ball to infielder, throw beats runner to first, ...»Turning2: SSUSA Definition 1.10 Catch You are correct, play must be ... |
1 | May 22, 2022 | 196 |
what's the ruling on ball over the foul line» Larry S: Batter hits ball down 3rd base line. Ball stops in foul territory ...»DaveDowell: FOUL BALL • You defined it in foul territory and further defined that ... »shortstop33: If any part of the ball is touching the line it is fair, even if the ... »DaveDowell: His statement of facts indicates that the ball was NOT touching the ... |
3 | May 22, 2022 | 226 |
Commitment line on a tag up.» Bigtimer40: Had a situation come up this week. Zero outs runners on 1st and 2nd. ...»B.J.: bigtimer.. I don't have the runner from 2nd being out until the ... »fresnomdn: I would guess (and hope) that the commitment line issue would be ... »DaveDowell: fresnomdn ... To my knowledge, there is no known exception allowing a ... »B.J.: fresno.. I agree with DD if the runner had re-crossed the C/L he ... »curty: appears to be no commitment line violation from the op, but that ... »Bigtimer40: the commitment line violation isn't an out until it is recrossed is ... »mck71: CRAZY scenario! So SS should have tagged the runner going to 2B and ... »Mikelmart: Of course all of this is predicated on what the umpire saw. If the 2B ... |
8 | May 20, 2022 | 380 |
What's the call on a pitch» Larry S: We have a player in our local league saying the plate umpire is ...»B.J.: once a pitch hits the ground it immediately becomes a dead BALL so ... »Rob64: What is this a joke? How is it possible to hit the ground and then ... »Omar Khayyam: Hey Rob64, it's not a joke at all. Many fields do not have dimensions ... »Scott Harder: Great that it will be called a ball as it should be, especially in ... |
4 | May 17, 2022 | 566 |
You make the call.» Perl: Playing SPA, 11 defensive players. Visiting coach puts 10 on lineup ...»B.J.: perl.. you should have waited for him to bat again and if he got a ... »Schibs: Can I get an expanded explanation on why the player was allowed into ... »B.J.: actually I haven't worked a SPA game in years maybe for a better ... »berger: B.J., I agree with waiting until the batter completes the at bat. ... »DaveDowell: berger ... In SSUSA sanctioned play, the simple statement of the rule ... |
5 | May 16, 2022 | 341 |
obstruction or interferenci» shortstop33: runner on base pop up fielder runs into runner standing on bag ...»B.J.: I’d have no call other than a possible IF call and play on »shortstop33: I can't believe you have no answer for me BJ. There has to be a rule. ... »B.J.: SS.. the base is the runners safe haven it’s where he belongs as long ... »Rob64: Runner has the right to the bag , if running fielder has the right to ... »Rob64: I.F. runners on 1st and 2nd with less than 2 outs. »lb16: Runner does not have to vacate bag in this situation in baseball or ... |
6 | May 12, 2022 | 321 |
Hitting the Gap» Bigtimer40: On one of our fields the outfield fence sits on a hill and has a ...»DaveDowell: That appears to fit the definition of a ground rule double ... I've ... »Bigtimer40: That is how we have been calling it. It was argued that it was from ... »DaveDowell: Bigtimer40 ... I'm confident you/we have it right and the others ... |
3 | May 12, 2022 | 158 |
Open Innings. When does an inning start when we "finish this inning and next inning ...» Teeter: Interpreting Rules 5.4C and 5.12. When does the open inning ...»coop3636: The next inning starts as soon as the 3rd out is made in the bottom ... »TimMcElroy: Here's how it works in most cases. The 6th inning begins at the ... »coop3636: Tim That is what I said, but you say it with much more ... |
3 | May 6, 2022 | 346 |
What's the Call?» VegasBob: Popup to the catcher. He catches it with his back to the plate. ...»DieselDan: With no leads allowed, you were already tagged up on the catch. Next ... »B.J.: diesel.. you are correct you may not leave the bag before the ball is ... »Turning2: Diesel - BJ has your answer except substitute "after first touch of ... »B.J.: T2 .. yes I understand what you meant .. what I was saying was that ... »coop3636: It is bad, but if the umpires calls TIME, whether it is right or ... |
5 | May 5, 2022 | 507 |
You make the call» Bruce M: League play. SSUSA rules. Runners on first and second. One out. ...»DirkPitt: I assume the ball was not caught based on your scenario. Because the ... »DieselDan: In rec games, it does seem more players make the call before the ... »Bruce M: Thx. Dirk and Dan. Yes, the ball landed in the short outfield. Your ... »Bruce M: I trust the tournament directors will correct me. I've done some ... |
4 | May 5, 2022 | 341 |
Same age, different divisions...» D.Litch: I've been a party to lots of situations involving guys playing down ...»DaveDowell: Somebody is making up a rule on you if they told you that is allowed ... »D.Litch: Thank you Dave... I was scratching my head about that too. »DG-A: Is it possible to play at the same level in an older age group ... »DaveDowell: YES ... You may play across age lines if otherwise eligible as to age ... »stick8: Can a player who plays 60 major plus also play 50 triple A? (asking ... »HSquared: When looking at the Ratings Table, it would suggest yes, even though ... »DaveDowell: Yes, stick8, that's allowable in theory ... Both have a rating index ... »MurrayW: So if a "friend" plays 65, 60, and 55 all on Major Plus teams, is his ... »T-mon: Murray would love to meet your "friend", he must be your twin who ... »stick8: I will definitely tell him that! »edcampbell3: Last year 2 of my Teammates and I, played 50 AAA. We are no longer on ... »DaveDowell: Multiple issues, Ed, neither of which is very complicated ... [1] ... »edcampbell3: Thank you Dave »lowprofile: So Dave, Just curious with Ed's description and the releases being ... »DaveDowell: lowprofile ... Yes, each division (other than Major+, of course) may ... »country nap: if a player is playing 60 major plus can he also play vegas for a 65 ... »DaveDowell: NO ... A 60-Major+ team has a Rating Index (R/I) = 7 ... The R/I for ... |
17 | May 4, 2022 | 1812 |
You make the call» stick8: Runner on 1st, 1 out. Batter hits a short fly ball to right field. ...»B.J.: stick... it's a 2 base award and the award will be determined by the ... »DaveDowell: B.J. ... Your statement of the rule is correct, but it appears from ... »B.J.: DD... ooops yup didn't read it correctly...but I liked my scenario ... »Turning2: Nice to be able to agree with DD, BJ you’re not reading the original ... »fresnomdn: Always two bases on this play no matter the direction of the runner. ... »Donna McGuire: Great explanation from fresnomdn. There is no special senior rule for ... |
6 | April 29, 2022 | 438 |
What does "Except for a wrong batter at bat" mean ??» tedchmura: Looking at the Official SSUSA Rulebook SECTION 7 - Batting 7.1 ...»B.J.: this means if the wrong batter is "STILL AT BAT" and the defense ... »tedchmura: B.J. - thank you very much. |
2 | April 22, 2022 | 277 |
Bring bat to first base» Michigan Vet: Had a play in a tournament this WE. Bases loaded 2 outs. Batter walks ...»DaveDowell: Under SSUSA sanction and rules, the only accurate description is: ... »TimMcElroy: In SSUSA play the batter-runner is NOT OUT when touching 1st base ... »Michigan Vet: Thx Dave That is what I thought. We were playing Florida Half ... »B.J.: Mich Vet .. I umpired FHC for many years and yes they do have a rule ... »Michigan Vet: BJ - It is in the Half Century Rules, a walk is a Dead Ball. Cannot ... »B.J.: MV.. yup just read it .. yeah I umpired them about 10 yrs ago ... ... |
6 | April 13, 2022 | 673 |
Home Run Rule» Advil Knight: If a player hits a home run over the fence and chooses to run all the ...»DieselDan: I imagine he's safe since under normal home runs, batter and base ... »B.J.: with an OTF HR or 4 base award there is no touch 1 base rule .. the ... »Turning2: BJ - Apply SSUSA Rules 5.7, 8.1, 8.4(7) and 8.9(2) equally to the ... »B.J.: T2... I was referring to 8.4(7) in my above post (NOTE: The batter ... »Turning2: BJ - i referred to 8.4(7) also with emphasis on how the SSUSA Rule is ... »AJC: This happened to us last year in Vegas at the Worlds. The other team ... |
6 | April 7, 2022 | 809 |
bases loaded but no advancement» Bigtimer40: Had a situation last night where bases were loaded zero outs. Ground ...»B.J.: if the fielder touches the bag 1st I have the runner advancing from ... »DaveDowell: B.J. is correct, but the 3B missed a very easy double (or triple) ... |
2 | April 6, 2022 | 342 |
Batting out of order» Nvjimmymac: A pinch runner who is going to bat soon is put in to run. As luck ...»lowprofile: 8.5(4) • COURTESY RUNNER COMING TO BAT WHILE ON BASE A courtesy ... »DaveDowell: Yes, your team actually did that in St. George, and the umpire called ... »Enviro-Vac: Could the runner not be replaced by a substitute player who is on the ... »titanhd: Respectfully disagree .Wouldn't Technically the batting order HITTER ... »B.J.: Enviro-Vac.. even if the substitute was allowed (which it isn't) he ... »DaveDowell: Rulebook §8.5(4) • COURTESY RUNNER COMING TO BAT WHILE ON BASE A ... »Q19: Can't you just substitute him in the batting order before his place ... »Dbax: It’s mind boggling that so many don’t know this rule! Happens all the ... »stick8: It’s pretty simple. If you’re a courtesy runner and your turn to bat ... »ebo17: Q19 may be on to something. Q19 is my P and bats 11th in the ... »Dbax: Nope, can’t do it. That’s what everyone trie's to say when they get ... »DaveDowell: ebo17 ... Q19 is onto the actual issue that prevents avoiding the out ... »STL0: If the runner on third was paying attention or anyone else on the ... »Turning2: DD - you and others have done an admirable job explaining to the ... »DaveDowell: T2 ... It's not the same analysis ... The CR rule/substitute issue ... »Turning2: DD - i contend that you and others take too literal of an ... »DaveDowell: T2 ... It's not that big a deal ... If "Joe's Not Here!", he's out #1 ... »DirkPitt: T2, your scenario sounds valid but the SSUSA ITB rule is very clear ... »B.J.: T2 .. there is no other way to take the rule but literally it's in ... »DaveDowell: B.J. ... Unless the original ITB designated runner entered the game ... »Turning2: DD, DirkPitt, BJ Would we all agree that the SSUSA Rule 5.4(2) ... »DaveDowell: T2 ... The National Rules Committee members enjoy the same ... »Turning2: Thanks Dave, I’ll send in a couple of recommendations/proposals for ... »B.J.: DD.. yes I agree 100% .. BUT .. how would it be handled if they ... »DaveDowell: Purely a random guess, because I don't think I've ever seen a team go ... »B.J.: I was leaning toward the illegal substitution appeal also »Turning2: BJ and DD - in your last two posts you have questions about the ... »Turning2: BJ & DD pardon - one correction above - same result Joe replaced by ... »DaveDowell: I have no questions whatsoever about the content, intent and clarity ... »Turning2: DD - Then please answer this question, Who takes the position as the ... »B.J.: T2.. I understand how you THINK you are applying the rule correctly ... »DaveDowell: After this (hopefully) brief comment, I'm done with this annoying ... |
32 | April 2, 2022 | 1214 |
A pitched ball hits the strike mat» Schwaz: Our recreation league umpires itself so, we have very few experienced ...»DaveDowell: DEAD BALL STRIKE ... Here's the rule ... §7.4 • STRIKE CALLED BY ... »Schwaz: DaveDowell thanks, much appreciated. I just found the same Rule on ... |
2 | April 1, 2022 | 406 |
How would you rule the call» Larry S: Local Senior League. Runner on first. Batter hits a fly to left, ...»DaveDowell: Presuming there was no second umpire on the game for consultation, ... »B.J.: I agree with D2 and even if it was a 2 man system the base umpire ... »1bounce: Sorry bj but that is the base umpire call. When he makes the call he ... »B.J.: 1bounce.. I disagree .. in 99% of 2 man systems the HP umpire has all ... »1bounce: Negative bj. I’ve worked 1,2,3,and 4 man. Your assuming the home ... »B.J.: 1bounce.. so you are saying that HP watches the catch but then looks ... »Hank Heffner: 1 man of course home plates call. 2 man home plate has catch no ... »Larry S: Just to clarify, there was one ump at home plate. »B.J.: 1bounce.. SSUSA does not have a positioning manual so this is from ... »Hank Heffner: BJ you are 100% correct. »stick8: Larry if the umpire ruled it a catch, it’s a catch! What the left ... »The Screamer5: That's the mechanic we've always used. All outfield fly ball catches ... »DieselDan: Yes, a pre game discussion should always have the plate umpire remind ... |
13 | March 24, 2022 | 586 |
Interference or Obstruction or no call» BillC48: This happened at a local rec league game and I need the assistance of ...»Turning2: Tough one here to call without seeing the play unfold. I initially ... »B.J.: BillC... hmmm did you happen to attend my umpire clinic in The ... »BillC48: HI BJ & Turning2- Thank you both for your responses. An no, I was not ... »Saratoga2: A question occurred relative to the interference rule in our senior ... »B.J.: Hmmm.. I thought you said this was a senior league and not a 10 and ... |
5 | March 15, 2022 | 764 |
