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| Dec. 7 Player25 Men's 55 50 posts | Curious as to thoughts about the following question. Who is the better hitter? The player who hits 800(pick a high number) with the majority of homeruns or the player that can not hit a home run(yes, there are players like that even with the equipment available) and needs to rely on base hits. |
| Dec. 7 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | I'd go with what I believe you have as the Latter choice...ie; on base average and RBI's. That is what I try to achieve along with an occasional HR thrown in. depending on runners on and limits. |
| Dec. 7 Dirty Men's 50 1371 posts | But the first guy has both. A very high average and a lot of home runs. How do you beat that? |
| Dec. 7 BruceinGa Men's 70 3233 posts | I agree with Dirty (NOT AGAIN??!!!) The first player has the same tools as the second plus he can hit hrs! |
| Dec. 7 Dirty Men's 50 1371 posts | Bruce, way to crossover to the light side! :) This must be a trick question. The answer just seems too obvious to me. |
| Dec. 7 BruceinGa Men's 70 3233 posts | Dirty, I agree. I could see the discussion if the hr hitter would hit 700 and the basehitter hit 800. That would really get some replies. |
| Dec. 7 BruceinGa Men's 70 3233 posts | Along these lines, our pitcher on Kayson's Grill, only made one out in the Winternationals in Florida this past month. His longest ball may have been 150 feet. Our opponents were really frustrated because they couldn't get him out! Way to go Curt M! |
| Dec. 7 Dirty Men's 50 1371 posts | I think he was trying to ask a "who's a better hitter, Ichiro or Ryan Howard?", type question but instead asked "who is better, Ichiro or Pujols". To me, Ichiro is the answer to the first and Pujols to the second. |
| Dec. 7 Omar Khayyam 1357 posts | Love your pitcher example, Bruce. There's a similar pitcher in California—hits third base bag, then short line drive to right just over second baseman's head, then the hole, then a dink to left field. If fielders come in, he muscles up and surprisingly can hit it about 240 feet! A real hard out and never a home run! |
| Dec. 7 Mr. Manassas 244 posts | I would like to add the question : WHO is the best hitter in senior softball? My Pick is a gentlemean from Richmond |
| Dec. 7 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | Mr.Manassas, My vote would go for Tom Mecredy out of Austin,Texas.Not a homerun hitter, but a pure left handed base hitter.One of the very best base hitters out there. |
| Dec. 7 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | Ron Parnell of the Mavericks... he wasn't bad in the younger circuit either. In the past 2 years the Mavericks won everything in sight and he was the catalyst. They have lots of really good hitters but he is the best hitter on the best senior team... he would also rate very high in the 'who is the best PLAYER' poll. no offense intended for anyone else. BW |
| Dec. 7 Mr. Manassas 244 posts | I am sure that there are many good hitters in the country and I have seen a few BUT Don Clatterbough is different. I have never seen a hitter that can basehit or hit homeruns with such consistancy than this guy.... |
| Dec. 7 Mr. Manassas 244 posts | I agree that Parnell is a great one. I just think that this guy affects the game like no other. Especially over 60!! |
| Dec. 7 Mr. Manassas 244 posts | I agree that Parnell is a great one. I just think that this guy affects the game like no other. Especially over 60!! |
| Dec. 7 DoubleL10 Men's 70 907 posts | I have to agree with Mr. Manassas. Clatta was the best hitter in senior ball when he was in the 50s, 55s and 60s where he currently resides. No hitter in the 50s between 1996 and 2001, 55s between 2002 and 2006 and the 60s now affects the game like he does. I have seen teams intentionally walk him EVERY at bat so he could not ignite his team with a long ball. I have seen Parnell (and Bully) hit and they are not better than Clatta when he played 50s. |
| Dec. 7 Player25 Men's 55 50 posts | Thanks for the responses. |
| Dec. 7 BruceinGa Men's 70 3233 posts | My vote for best senior hitter is Caleb Rabinold. He has played some Curt and Audie. In addition to hitting either line and hrs he is also very fast. |
| Dec. 7 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Boy, Bruce, and I agree with Gary Sommers, too. Best senior hitters I've seen up close and boy am I lucky to have had the opportunity were/are: Charley Pierce as a young fifty. Clatta then and now. Healthy Mike Burbank and the incomparable, Rick Perez. Denny Jones is right up there, too. These are all guys I played with. Guys mostly against-- Butch Hayes, Hank from Las Vegas, Steve Imlay Bogie Wally (Waldyte) just to name a few. There's many more. |
| Dec. 7 Mango Men's 50 159 posts | Nobody in the game right now has more power right now than Ron Parnell. There may be some that can hit for power with him, but not better. But even more importantly, especially with the home run restrictions last year, he can also hit for average/base hits with anyone. Anyone that played against him saw his dink to right field when the situation called for him to stay in. And he was completely unselfish, giving himself up to do that time and time again. He also is a tremendous leader. He makes the players around him better. Here’s the acid test. If you take all the players that are playing Senior Softball right now, all ages and all divisions, and do a draft, I can’t imagine anyone getting picked ahead of Ron Parnell. If there were a better hitter in the game RIGHT NOW, I’d love to see him. There is not a better all around player. |
| Dec. 8 turn2 489 posts | I have to vote for Mr. Clatterbough. I don't think anybody can out hit him for the entire season year in and year out. In the last 5 years he has but up some crazy numbers for our team. Now there may be a better all around player but not a better hitter. My 2 cents Donnie |
| Dec. 8 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Hey Dave, The best to you and the boys always and you know your team better than I do. Parnell is a great hitter for sure. And you say he's made the whole team better and that chemistry is unmistakable but I will say that your defensive ability is what separated you guys from the pack. Turbo and Duff running down all kinds of stuff in 5 man infield with the best trio of pitchers senior softball has ever seen led by Mickey the Maestro Hughes. Sal is a monster defender to in my book and added a ton to your guys' dominance. And, congratulations on the run you guys have made with the Mavericks. Just like with Kellys for me those are very special times, memories and accomplishments and last forever,Dave. Way to go for you and all the fellas. Are you guys going to reform under a new name or look for other teams to play? Are you guys gonna continue to bring Courtesy guys up till you remake your monster squad from 45 and over? Which ever way it goes congratulations to you and all the Maverick guys. |
| Dec. 8 stick8 1992 posts | Interesting question Player25. Personally I'm one of those guys who relys on the base hits and doesn't hit home runs. But I'm bulking up this winter and will be using a senior bat next year!! lol To answer your question I would say the best hitters are ones who can go out of the yard at will and at the same time keep it in the yard when the situation calls for it without worrying about accidently hitting it out. IOW, they have great bat control. From what I've observed in 50 major plus Ron Parnell of the Mavericks and Vern from OKI Players both excel at this. The lead off hitter for the Mavericks might be the most professional hitter I've ever seen. He has demonstrated that he can hit any hole anywhere in the field and if an outfielder cheats in on him he'll blast it over your head. Believe me, I know!! |
| Dec. 8 DUTCH33 2 posts | Phil Miller of Damon's Grill 50+ can hit the Long Ball with any and all Senior Players. |
| Dec. 8 Just -a-base Hitter Men's 60 12 posts | A base hitter who can go yard when needed.With a 800 average |
| Dec. 9 truhitter 24 posts | i have played played softball 4 over 30 yrs, not counting bruce MEADE the best hitter i ever saw play was john partee |
| Dec. 9 audieh Men's 60 249 posts | Having played senior ball for 7 years I have seen some great hitters. However, many times you see a great hitter for just a short period of time and it is hard to judge them. However, the ones that have impressed me with their abilities and not in any particular order are: 60s Clatta 60s Davie Reed 60s Bruce Meade (when he plays) 60s Ed Rose 55s Pat McLellan 55s Gary Deaton 55s Bobby Davis 50s Ron Parnell 50s Waldyte 50s Mark Martin 50s Caleb Rabenold Boy wouldn't you love to have a team with this roster and then about 3 more excellent defensive players. Here's a question. Who are some of the best defensive players you have seen in senior ball. The guy that sticks in my mind is Perez who we only use to see in Vegas. What a talent. |
| Dec. 10 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Glad to hear you mention, Rick Perez. What a treat to play with him and he's the best teammate imaginable. Performance leader of the team who was always positive and helpful to anyone struggling, needing support or seeking advice. Ricky's retired now and still works with would be hitters in the Vegas area. Nobody better. Audie, we both remember some of those shots you guys hit against us for a couple of years running that never had a chance of getting by or through him. And what I never commented but once about was the day that Mike Burbank hit his 525 + shot in Vegas later in the game as it was almost dark Ricky hit a shot that went way up right down the left field line through and over the lights and out of sight that I always thought went easily as far. What a player and what a teammate. |
| Dec. 10 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Best defensive players. Great question, Audie. Mike Walker OF Verne Fowler OF Mickey Hughes Pitcher Butch Hayes SS Curt "Claw" Clawson SS Forgot to mention Bobby Davis on the list of great hitters, Audie. Bobby and Rick Perez played Armed Services Ball together. Bobby's an all around monster player, too. |
| Dec. 10 Lecak Men's 60 1026 posts | Joe your guy Charlie for 5 Spot is hard to beat for defense |
| Dec. 10 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Thanks, Joe. Charlie is certainly the best pure defensive SS playing now and his side-kick, Joe Cuneo of Clary's, 5 Spot and Courtesy Auto is consistently for my money the best defensive 3rd baseman in senior ball. |
