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| Feb. 25, 2024 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Double play or force out? Definitely a double play. DD is correct, a base is not a safe haven when the runner is required to advance. Runner at third is forced out and the runner going to third from second is forced out. Had a similar play last summer umpiring a class D men’s tournament. The runner thought the defense has to touch the next bag for him to be forced out. The ignorance of some people is amazing. |
| Feb. 15, 2024 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Batters Box Rule Change Essentially this is the same rule we use in One Nation. We do allow the batter to drag the toe on his back foot in front of the front edge of home plate upon contact. What One Nation wanted to achieve was try and eliminate batters running up in the box and hitting. And if your back foot is beyond the edge of home plate when making contact and you hit a foul ball it’s not a foul ball, it’s an out!!! |
| Dec. 13, 2023 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What's the rile BJ as usual you’re correct. That especially bodes true if you’re on base. That blinding speed you have you’d easily score from third. 😀 Happy holidays to you and yours! |
| Dec. 11, 2023 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What's the rile Oops correction, shortstop caught in foul territory. |
| Dec. 11, 2023 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What's the rile Mad Dog I must disagree. Last tournament I played we had bases loaded with one out ( I was on first). Count on batter was 2-2 ( start with 1-1 with foul to waste) with a foul to waste. He hit pop up behind third which the shortstop caught in fair territory. That’s a foul out, not a third strike. |
| Dec. 10, 2023 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What's the rile Unless it’s changed SSUSA rules stipulate if a foul tip goes over the batters head and is caught by the catcher it’s an out. If a foul tip is below the batters head and is caught by the catcher it’s a strike—not an out unless it’s a third strike. BJ is the go to guy on SSUSA rules. In young mans USA and One Nation (which i umpire) a foul tip either below or above the head caught in the air by the catcher is an out no matter the count. If the scenario in the first post were playing SSUSA rules that would be the batters waste. |
| Aug. 25, 2023 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Does the run count? T2 your explanation regarding the described scenario in the first post would be correct if the batter-runner missed first base and the defense appealed it. Keep in mind the batter-runner is not required to go to second, he could have chosen to stay at first. Here’s one I had this past Monday: Runners at 1st and 3rd, 1 out. Batter hits a fly ball to left, fairly deep. Left fielder catches it for the 2nd out. Runner at third tags and scores. Runner at first thought there were 2 outs and was running to second without tagging. Throw comes into second and they throw to first to double up the runner at first who never tagged. Runner at third crossed the plate before the 3rd out was recorded at first, Does the run count? |
| Aug. 22, 2023 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Does the run count? Masons Grandpa is correct. Run scores |
| Aug. 3, 2023 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Intentionally Dropped Fly Ball or Line Drive Ruling as posted by Donna is correct. In young man’s ball we call it making a travesty of the game. Being from Michigan we’d say “making a traverse city of the game” 😀 |
| July 27, 2023 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: No tag call Like BJ, I would also verbalize a safe or out call on the described play. Another thing I would look for is the runner going out of the baseline. It doesn’t take much to do that. |
| May 18, 2023 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Potential interference Although I’d have to see this play to make a definitive call but if it’s as described in the first post I have interference on that runner. Dead ball, that runner is out and the runner closest to home is out. Double play, inning over. If it was legal for a baserunner to throw his or her hands up like that to interfere with a throw I would think that would be a common occurrence nearly everywhere. |
| May 10, 2023 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Courtesy Runner Yogi08, short answer is yes a runner can refuse a courtesy runner. I actually did it once. I was on second as the 7th run of the inning (we were major plus). Being that it was hot that day our coach thought I may have been tired. When the guy came out to run I told him “no way, I got this” Batter got a base hit and I scored easily. It |
| April 30, 2023 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Senior Softball: A hitter's game? Webbie I’m very familiar with that LD team, they’re from my area!! Very opportunistic team and very strong players who not only could hit but play d as well. They almost never beat themselves. Give them an inch and they’ll take a mile. The missed play at first you refer to clearly illustrates that!! When losing a hard fought, close game you can always pinpoint a play or two that likely made the difference between winning and losing by a run. |
| April 29, 2023 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: 2 Person Umpiring Position NYGYY, that’s a standard baseball position. Call it a hunch but I suspect that umpire also does baseball. I agree with BJ, it’s much too dangerous to be standing on the inside in softball. |
| April 25, 2023 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Senior Softball: A hitter's game? I’m a firm believer in offense wins you games and defense wins you championships. Teams need both. Having some bounces go your way, an umpire call or two go your way and plain ole Lady Luck doesn’t hurt. Bruce here’s what I’d do with that .720 obp, errors, missed cut offs which allow those runs. He’d be an ah or catcher. |
| April 18, 2023 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Slap hit If you break your wrist guess what? You’re going to a hospital and you’re on the sidelines for several weeks. Yes the batter cannot chop. Dead ball out The batter must follow thru on his/her swing. There is no rule that says it has to be a certain speed. It can be a slow speed follow thru. The batter cannot stop his/her swing, I consider that a bunt. |
| Feb. 10, 2023 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Interference or Not This is exactly like the infamous bunt by Cincinnati Reds outfielder Ed Armbrister in the 1975 World Series. Armbrister laid down what was intended to be a sacrifice bunt. Upon running to first he collided with Red Sox catcher Carlton Fisk who was attempting to field the ball. It caused Fisk to throw wildly to second in an attempt to force the runner from first. No call was made by home plate umpire Larry Barnett. This has been a subject of a lot of debate thru the years. I invite people to Google the play. My call: interference on Armbrister. |
| Dec. 19, 2022 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Moving from Volunteer Umpires to Paid Umpires in our recreational yet competitive Senior Softball League Practically all venues i umpire in are cash on the barrel. League teams pay us cash per game. For tournaments i umpire the director pays us cash when we are finished for the tournament. I suppose some use Venmo or pay pal. But it’s all tax free. But if you ump or officiate for a city, school, sports type of organization or another entity you can earn up to $600 per calendar year tax free. You earn over $600 you have to submit a w9 form as part of your earned income on your tax returns. |
| Dec. 7, 2022 stick8 | Topic: Players looking to join a team Discussion: 60+ Animal What happens in Vegas…………….never happened |
| Nov. 27, 2022 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Home plate issue Screamer it’s important to do a pregame with your partner to go over certain situations to determine who has what. Several years ago I worked with a guy who looked at me funny after I went over stuff in our pregame. Then in the 3rd inning we had a situation like rangeview85 described. I’m in the field. Routine fly to left center. Instead of going out i button hook to get in position for a possible play at second. Runner at second tags and goes to third. Runner at first tags and goes to second. Throw goes to third. I look for my partner to make a call and he’s leaning on the backstop talking with someone. I yelled out that’s your call at third. He said no that’s your call. Then he said I call balls and strikes only. After a momentary rage i finished the game and I told my assignor at the time don’t put me with that clown ever again. |
