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April 4, 2021
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Intentional walk used to nulify a dominate hitter.

MurrayW, could that person you described been Mike Hargrove? 😀
March 31, 2021
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Intentional walk used to nulify a dominate hitter.

Franjan the solution to your problem is to have two strong hitters batting behind him. That protects him.
March 30, 2021
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Scoring line

Randall to answer your question from 4 posts above:
Yes, the umpire should have called that runner out for going into the dugout area before crossing the scoring line.
The umpire did well to notice it but a no call was a mistake.
March 15, 2021
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: I'm sure I got it wrong---What would be the right call

In all the years Iíve umpired tournament ball Iíve never had a case where a base coach intentionally kicked a ball away from a fielder trying to secure it off an errant throw. Base coaches should know to get out of fhe way. Iíve had this happen in league ball but they just throw it back to the pitcher. I simply tell them that unless time is called not to do that.
BTW, maybe there is somewhere but Iíve never been on team, witnessed another team or heard of any slow-pitch team who has an individual whoís there strictly as a ďdefensive coachĒ.
March 12, 2021
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: LVSSA

Whatís up Rickey?
March 11, 2021
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: LVSSA

Dave i sure do. Iím not sure where the one up rule originated but that was the rule when we played NSA. And it was a rule that I agreed with. Once the hr limits was reached by both teams the visiting team never wanted to be one up in hrs in the last inning. When we were fortunate enough to do our part we would tell our pitcher to serve up a meat ball!!
March 11, 2021
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: LVSSA

Before SSUSA moved their worlds to Las Vegas I remember playing the LVSSA worlds. At that time it seemed LVSSA was a tougher tournament. I donít recall the umpiring to be bad in any outlandish way. I do remember a strange rule. Even if you had home runs left the home team couldnít hit a home run to win the game in the open inning. Perhaps I missed something but I never understood the reasoning behind that rule.
March 3, 2021
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Rule interpretation

AJC, many moons ago I played in an indoor winter league which had the same rules. Tagging was allowed and runners had the option of running past the bag. Any turn toward the next base they were liable to be tagged out. At first it was weird but we eventually got used to it. For us it was a great way to keep our swing and throwing active thru the winter to be ready to go for outdoor ball once the season began.
March 2, 2021
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Rule interpretation

Franjan based on what youíve posted here it appears to me (again Iíd have to read the rule and see the play) that if the fielder is leaning to the right of the bag the runner has the option of running by the bag on the other side. Or he can stop on the bag on the other side. Question I would have:
Since runners can overrun either side of 2nd or 3rd and not be liable to be tagged out going back to the base would that also be the case if a runner touched the base and ran past it (if they initially avoided a collision)?
March 1, 2021
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Commit line abuse

My opinion here: Runner on first or first and third with less than two outs. Iíve long thought itís a smart play for an infielder to let an infield pop up drop if the batter doesnít run it out, especially in tournament play. Run it out!!
But the senior rule is the senior rule
Feb. 26, 2021
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Rule interpretation

Interesting situation. First and foremost Iíd have to read the entire written rule and see the play before I make a definitive call.
Going by your description of the rule you might be right in your ruling.
Does it specify anywhere in the rule that a runner advancing to a base MUST go on one side of the bag or the other if there is play at that bag?
If yes, then your call would be right.
If not then going by your description of the play Iím not certain how that runner can be called out for arriving safely at third base when you say the throw pulled the third baseman off the bag.


Feb. 22, 2021
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: When sliding is NOT an option

Youre fortunate you have the ability to do that Turning2. Not many at 70 and above can do that!
Feb. 22, 2021
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: When sliding is NOT an option

Turning2 I understand and agree with most of what you say. Thereís one that I have a slignt disagreement with. A runner can do everything they can do to avoid collisions with opposing players while running the bases but still end up plowing a fielder over, when trying to stop at a base with a play being made.

Feb. 21, 2021
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: When sliding is NOT an option

Turning2, the sentence after my scenarios reads: ďthese are strictly judgement callsĒ
Thatís the bottom line: judgement
Iím happy to engage in discussion and I can say on a certain play described to me on here it sounds like the umpire made the right call (as in Randallís example) or wasnt wrong but I always say Iíd have to see the play to make a definite call or judgement.
I donít know of any umpire who can make a definite call or definite judgement on a play that they donít see.
Feb. 17, 2021
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: When sliding is NOT an option

Randall,
It sounds like you made the right call but Iíd have to see the play to 100% confirm it.
1) if the fielder is behind, to right of or to the left of second base and gets plowed over by the runner I would have interference on the runner.
2) if the fielder is standing in the middle of the bag and got plowed over I have nothing unless the runner intentionally plowed the fielder over, in my judgement.
3) if the fielder is in front of the bag and gets plowed over I have obstruction on the fielder.
These are strictly judgement calls.
Keep in mind as we age into our 50s,60s and 70s it gets tougher and tougher to stop on a dime, twist, contort or pretzel your way safely on the bag without colliding on a bang bang type play.
A winter indoor league I used to play in years ago had a no slide rule but also had a rule where you could run to the side of 2nd or 3rd and overrun the bag. As long as you went straight out and didnít make a turn toward the next base you were ok. At first it was odd but after a while we got used to it and it actually worked out pretty well avoiding collisions.
Randall, since there is a no slide rule in the league you reference maybe you can suggest this to those who run the league? Just a thought

Feb. 10, 2021
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitchers attire

Einstein!! Blast from the past!! I wonder how heís doing. I played against him when I started in senior ball. On the field he was a pretty strong hitter and a pretty decent pitcher. Off the field he definitely had opinions! But heís a good man at heart.
Feb. 10, 2021
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: SAFE or OUT

Dave, I used to umpire a deaf team in a house league several years ago. They obviously communicated with each other by sign language except when they argued a call. Then all kinds of noises were uttered and it looked like they were all doing the hand jive!!
I guess your example could be considered non-verbal but itís really a live ball appeal.
Feb. 10, 2021
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Force out or not

RdLake ask yourself this. If a runner is caught in a run down between first and second for example, that runner is not forced to advance to the next base. If all,that was required was to touch a base which base would you touch?
Feb. 9, 2021
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: SAFE or OUT

DCPete itís because in the original scenario the batter-runner went back to first base!

Feb. 7, 2021
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Interference?

Turning2, maybe Iím reading this wrong but Iím of the opinion youíre getting slightly agitated here. No one posting is disagreeing with the rule, what you say, how you rule or is trying to put you under the bus. The main point of what Iím conveying here is umpire judgement dictates what is called in most every situation.
In my 30 years of umpiring slow pitch (ASA, ISA, SSUSA, USSSA, Conference USSSA, One Nation) Iíve come up with one phrase that my crew has adopted:
ďUmpires arenít always right but theyíre never wrongĒ

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