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Dec. 1, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What is the ruling Moral of the story: in situations as described above and others of the like: Always touch a base
Nov. 26, 2025 stick8	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Pitching screens for tournament play 2026 JohnO28, Here is the One Nation rule on screens:(from 3 years ago but I think it’s the same) “A game may not commence until both teams either use a screen or do not use a screen. This decision (if screens are available) would be decided at the home plate meeting pre-game. If teams cannot agree the the screen WILL be used” Seems a bit odd to me
Nov. 20, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What is the ruling cw, That’s true, including the umpire. The umpire should have called the batter-runner out as soon as he went into the dugout or area of the dugout.
Nov. 19, 2025 stick8	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Pitching screens for tournament play 2026 I find it hard to believe that if a team elects to use a screen then the other team must use the screen. It should be optional, never mandatory. The debate is if a screen is used can the pitcher be a fielder? Personally I favor what ISSA does. Pitcher can’t be the first one to touch the ball. At the Smokies back in May I didn’t witness very many screens. Just my $0.02
Nov. 18, 2025 stick8	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Pitching screens for tournament play 2026 JohnO28, I ump for One Nation. I only ump young man’s ball and have never heard of that rule about the screens. In fact I’ve never witnessed any team ever using a screen. Is that a senior rule?
Nov. 18, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What’s the Correct Call? That could be a good strategy!!!
Nov. 18, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What’s the Correct Call? On an errant throw from an infielder on a ground ball that goes out of play it’s a dead ball, the batter-runner and all runners on base advance two bases from the time of the pitch. In your scenario the runner at second scores, runner at first goes to third and batter-runner goes to second. When I ump it’s all bats & everyone in the dugout except for the on-deck batter and keep the gates closed.
Nov. 18, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What is the ruling Randall, I’d be curious to know what the batter-runner was thinking when he went into the dugout!! Maybe it was one of those “senior moments”?
Oct. 28, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Purposeful Stalling Webbie you make way too much sense!! I was umpiring my last tournament Saturday and saw the coach of that team. I asked him what he was thinking on that strategy. He just shrugged and said “win some, lose some” That about sums it up
Oct. 28, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What’s the Correct Call? FOFO, I share Dbax’s sentiment. Perhaps you meant otherwise but are you saying that a runner rounding first possibly looking to go to second is out if he’s impeded by the first baseman?
Oct. 27, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What’s the Correct Call? As BJ correctly stated it’s primarily an umpire judgement call. Basic Rule of thumb is if a fielder is not attempting to field a ball the runner has the right of way. If a runner is somehow hindered or impeded by a fielder its obstruction. While there is no real base path from say, first to second, a runner cannot deliberately go way out his or her way in an egregious manner and bump into a fielder simply trying to draw an obstruction call. It’s a judgement call by the umpire.
Oct. 24, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Purposeful Stalling Although I would never do that I sort of understand it Webbie. They had their bottom of the order up and figured they’d run out of game time without scoring and not have their top come up. But in the top of the 7th the other team had 2-3-4 coming up. The strategy blew up in their face! I know one thing. If I was one of the 3 players told to intentionally strike out I’d never play for that team again.
Oct. 23, 2025 stick8	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Illegal Pitch Rule Nancy, ISSA calls it. I don’t know about the newer association, I think it’s TPSSA. It is a shame that from time to time umpires don’t call “illegal” when the ball is in the air. But otoh, sometimes we’re lucky just to have umpires!!
Oct. 23, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Purposeful Stalling I suppose that’s correct. Ive been told that a team can forfeit their at bats if they choose to.
Oct. 23, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Purposeful Stalling Nancy, this happened just the other night: Men’s league playoff game Bottom of the 6th inning, home team down by 4. There were 5 minutes left for game time. (Their scorekeeper watches that like a hawk) They decide to take 3 strikeouts, 6 pitches, 6 swing and misses. Took about a minute— to get themselves another inning. Top of 7, visiting team scores 6 runs. Bottom 7 home team goes out 1-2-3. They got their last inning in but outsmarted themselves!!
Oct. 21, 2025 stick8	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Illegal Pitch Rule Nancy is correct. Besides SSUSA, the only association that calls “illegal” with the arm out while the pitch is in the air is USA (formerly ASA). It sure has worked out real well for them over the years! Problem with senior ball is sometimes you get umpires that don’t do that. Likely because they’re Utrip, NSA or One Nation. Going over rules 15 minutes before game time is likely not going to break their habits! Unless the pitch is egregiously high or flat look to hit!
Oct. 15, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Purposeful Stalling Nancy, I ump for One Nation. We usually don’t encounter teams who stall because the way we do it (at least where I’m at) is once time limit expires they then play one more inning. Usually it’s 60 minutes then one more inning. Those young bucks normally run in and out during changes. Seniors tend to walk slowly, take their time, some stop and bs with each other before the inning starts. Perhaps if they could hustle just a little bit they could perhaps get themselves another inning. I’ve never added time, know any umpire or have heard of any umpire adding time to a game. But it’s listed in the SSUSA rules as an option if a team is stalling.
Oct. 9, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Purposeful Stalling If the team stalling is batting the manager will get a warning. If it continues the ump can start calling strikes on the batter. If it’s the defense stalling the umpire can add more time to the time limit. Stalling is strictly in the judgement of the umpire. One thing that i do that works quite often is hollering “batter up” between innings. More often than not it gets players moving.
Oct. 8, 2025 stick8	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Whats the ruling? Dave, Everything you stated is correct, thank you. In the scenario JohnO28 described the batter should have been out on his second foul ball.
Oct. 6, 2025 stick8	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Whats the ruling? Batter should have been out-3rd strike foul. Did this happen in Vegas? And how on earth did the ump get 2 balls 2 strikes when he only called one ball? Good grief!

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