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Feb. 25, 2024
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Double play or force out?

Definitely a double play. DD is correct, a base is not a safe haven when the runner is required to advance. Runner at third is forced out and the runner going to third from second is forced out.
Had a similar play last summer umpiring a class D menís tournament. The runner thought the defense has to touch the next bag for him to be forced out. The ignorance of some people is amazing.
Feb. 15, 2024
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Batters Box Rule Change

Essentially this is the same rule we use in One Nation. We do allow the batter to drag the toe on his back foot in front of the front edge of home plate upon contact. What One Nation wanted to achieve was try and eliminate batters running up in the box and hitting.
And if your back foot is beyond the edge of home plate when making contact and you hit a foul ball itís not a foul ball, itís an out!!!
Dec. 13, 2023
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What's the rile

BJ as usual youíre correct. That especially bodes true if youíre on base. That blinding speed you have youíd easily score from third. 😀
Happy holidays to you and yours!
Dec. 11, 2023
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What's the rile

Oops correction, shortstop caught in foul territory.
Dec. 11, 2023
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What's the rile

Mad Dog I must disagree. Last tournament I played we had bases loaded with one out ( I was on first). Count on batter was 2-2 ( start with 1-1 with foul to waste) with a foul to waste. He hit pop up behind third which the shortstop caught in fair territory. Thatís a foul out, not a third strike.
Dec. 10, 2023
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What's the rile

Unless itís changed SSUSA rules stipulate if a foul tip goes over the batters head and is caught by the catcher itís an out. If a foul tip is below the batters head and is caught by the catcher itís a strikeónot an out unless itís a third strike.
BJ is the go to guy on SSUSA rules.
In young mans USA and One Nation (which i umpire) a foul tip either below or above the head caught in the air by the catcher is an out no matter the count.
If the scenario in the first post were playing SSUSA rules that would be the batters waste.
Aug. 25, 2023
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Does the run count?

T2 your explanation regarding the described scenario in the first post would be correct if the batter-runner missed first base and the defense appealed it. Keep in mind the batter-runner is not required to go to second, he could have chosen to stay at first.
Hereís one I had this past Monday:
Runners at 1st and 3rd, 1 out.
Batter hits a fly ball to left, fairly deep. Left fielder catches it for the 2nd out.
Runner at third tags and scores. Runner at first thought there were 2 outs and was running to second without tagging.
Throw comes into second and they throw to first to double up the runner at first who never tagged.
Runner at third crossed the plate before the 3rd out was recorded at first,
Does the run count?


Aug. 22, 2023
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Does the run count?

Masons Grandpa is correct.
Run scores
Aug. 3, 2023
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Intentionally Dropped Fly Ball or Line Drive

Ruling as posted by Donna is correct.
In young manís ball we call it making a travesty of the game. Being from Michigan weíd say ďmaking a traverse city of the gameĒ 😀
July 27, 2023
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: No tag call

Like BJ, I would also verbalize a safe or out call on the described play. Another thing I would look for is the runner going out of the baseline. It doesnít take much to do that.
May 18, 2023
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Potential interference

Although Iíd have to see this play to make a definitive call but if itís as described in the first post I have interference on that runner. Dead ball, that runner is out and the runner closest to home is out. Double play, inning over.
If it was legal for a baserunner to throw his or her hands up like that to interfere with a throw I would think that would be a common occurrence nearly everywhere.
May 10, 2023
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Courtesy Runner

Yogi08, short answer is yes a runner can refuse a courtesy runner. I actually did it once. I was on second as the 7th run of the inning (we were major plus). Being that it was hot that day our coach thought I may have been tired. When the guy came out to run I told him ďno way, I got thisĒ Batter got a base hit and I scored easily. It
April 30, 2023
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Senior Softball: A hitter's game?

Webbie Iím very familiar with that LD team, theyíre from my area!! Very opportunistic team and very strong players who not only could hit but play d as well. They almost never beat themselves. Give them an inch and theyíll take a mile. The missed play at first you refer to clearly illustrates that!!
When losing a hard fought, close game you can always pinpoint a play or two that likely made the difference between winning and losing by a run.

April 29, 2023
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 2 Person Umpiring Position

NYGYY, thatís a standard baseball position.
Call it a hunch but I suspect that umpire also does baseball.
I agree with BJ, itís much too dangerous to be standing on the inside in softball.
April 25, 2023
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Senior Softball: A hitter's game?

Iím a firm believer in offense wins you games and defense wins you championships. Teams need both. Having some bounces go your way, an umpire call or two go your way and plain ole Lady Luck doesnít hurt.
Bruce hereís what Iíd do with that .720 obp, errors, missed cut offs which allow those runs.
Heíd be an ah or catcher.

April 18, 2023
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Slap hit

If you break your wrist guess what? Youíre going to a hospital and youíre on the sidelines for several weeks.
Yes the batter cannot chop. Dead ball out
The batter must follow thru on his/her swing. There is no rule that says it has to be a certain speed. It can be a slow speed follow thru.
The batter cannot stop his/her swing, I consider that a bunt.
Feb. 10, 2023
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Interference or Not

This is exactly like the infamous bunt by Cincinnati Reds outfielder Ed Armbrister in the 1975 World Series. Armbrister laid down what was intended to be a sacrifice bunt. Upon running to first he collided with Red Sox catcher Carlton Fisk who was attempting to field the ball. It caused Fisk to throw wildly to second in an attempt to force the runner from first. No call was made by home plate umpire Larry Barnett.
This has been a subject of a lot of debate thru the years.
I invite people to Google the play.
My call: interference on Armbrister.
Dec. 19, 2022
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Moving from Volunteer Umpires to Paid Umpires in our recreational yet competitive Senior Softball League

Practically all venues i umpire in are cash on the barrel. League teams pay us cash per game. For tournaments i umpire the director pays us cash when we are finished for the tournament. I suppose some use Venmo or pay pal. But itís all tax free.
But if you ump or officiate for a city, school, sports type of organization or another entity you can earn up to $600 per calendar year tax free. You earn over $600 you have to submit a w9 form as part of your earned income on your tax returns.
Dec. 7, 2022
stick8
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: 60+ Animal

What happens in VegasÖÖÖÖÖ.never happened
Nov. 27, 2022
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Home plate issue

Screamer itís important to do a pregame with your partner to go over certain situations to determine who has what.
Several years ago I worked with a guy who looked at me funny after I went over stuff in our pregame. Then in the 3rd inning we had a situation like rangeview85 described. Iím in the field. Routine fly to left center. Instead of going out i button hook to get in position for a possible play at second. Runner at second tags and goes to third. Runner at first tags and goes to second. Throw goes to third. I look for my partner to make a call and heís leaning on the backstop talking with someone. I yelled out thatís your call at third. He said no thatís your call. Then he said I call balls and strikes only.
After a momentary rage i finished the game and I told
my assignor at the time donít put me with that clown ever again.





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