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Discussion: Miken U2-More Durable???

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Jan. 21
garyheifner

651 posts
Miken U2-More Durable???
I saw someone said back a week or so that Miken was going to put more Wraps of material around the U2 to make it stronger/more durable. Is this true or rumor???? If it is correct, are they going to mark the new bat in someway so that you know you are buying the new stronger edition?????
Jan. 21
Gary19
Men's 50
2609 posts
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Will more wraps mean less pop?

If so, how will the guys who need to most special bat out there respond?
Jan. 21
JamesLG

421 posts
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I believe that was me who mentioned this and nobody has answered the question. I don't care if it has a little less pop as long as it will last.
If anybody knows if this is going to happen please let us know.

Thank You:

James
Jan. 21
outfielder
Men's 65
59 posts
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just curious Gary19, what bat do you use
Jan. 22
Gary19
Men's 50
2609 posts
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Fair question. An Ultra 2. It is the only one I own, well besides the 18-year-old Steeles XLT that I use in the cage. I don't buy every new bat that comes out chasing an extra 5' of distance.

Jan. 22
db14

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WOW ....our little Senior Softball resident critic Gary19 is using someone else's latest technology and indirectly contributing to their R&D...my my my! Can anyone say HYPOCRITE. Now here comes his bile filled unqualified response.....
Jan. 22
Omar Khayyam

1357 posts
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i think the correct question is whether Gary19 NEEDS an Ultra 2 to feel good about playing softball, or whether he uses one to level the playing field. I play in a single wall league and a double wall, so I have a cheapo bat for each league. And for tournaments, I also have an Ultra 2, but I'm one who argues for a return to softball without any composite bats. I'd put my Miken in deep storage in a heartbeat if the desire for the balanced game and safety concerns resulted in lowering the ridiculous level of hot bats.

But db14 is right that every purchase of a Miken (or Reebok, Combat, etc.) just encourages bat manufacturers to develop hotter and more fragile bats. The change will come from players (or maybe lawsuit-fearing associations), not from the bat manufacturers. Or maybe senior softball will just continue to decline as players reject the unbalanced playing conditions and the high risk bats and stop playing.
Jan. 22
Gary19
Men's 50
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Omar, you are correct as usual.

My point always has been that I, unlike what others on here have said, would continue to play if the bats were dumbed down all the way to wood. And I don't ask for crazy rules to accommodate the special bats, also unlike others.

I own one game bat, not a golf bag's worth trying to find one that will hit 5' further than what I use now.
Jan. 22
MaverickAH

58 posts
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WOW..... Calling a bat originally designed & produced in 2002, "latest technology" is a bit of a stretch don't you think?

Personally, I don't get why seniors are using no warranty senior bats anyway! A good U-Trip bat w/warranty makes much more sense.

Now, as far as anyone using a U2? Well, as the saying goes, "You don't bring a knife to a gun fight!" That's plenty reason enough right there to use one even if you think that it shouldn't be part of the game.

Hypocritical? Maybe, but I'm not one to make a moral stand on this issue if it allows my opponent a competitive advantage especially when it's legal!
Jan. 22
FOFO
Men's 60
284 posts
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I thought Miken had already done this when the created the Ultra II Legacy. Takes awhile to break in but seem to have plenty of pop and a 1 year replacement warranty.
Has it been discontinued?
Jan. 22
Gary19
Men's 50
2609 posts
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FOFO, it probably isn't lively enough for a lot of guys on here. Just think of how many seem to run out and buy a new model bat, sight unseen, in the hope it gets them that 'valuable' 5' of extra distance.
Jan. 22
taits
Men's 65
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When you alter to get either more pop or durability out of a bat you give up the other. You can't have it both ways, one or the other will suffer.
Its just how much of which ever will.
Jan. 22
Enviro-Vac
Men's 65
489 posts
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FOFO I had Legacy that I probably put about 3,000 hits on before it broke so yeah, pretty durable compared to a U2. Felt a lot like a Freak Plus.
Jan. 22
Omar Khayyam

1357 posts
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taits, don't think I have ever seen a sentence like yours above "It's just how much of which ever will" I'll spend the rest of the night translating :=)
Jan. 22
taits
Men's 65
4548 posts
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Omar,
To-shay.
Meaning if you go for more pop you give up durability, or visa versa.
By adding more wraps of composite material you will give up some pop.
Finding the happy medium is the hard part.
Jan. 22
Omar Khayyam

1357 posts
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taits, thanks for the translation (although I still don't see it). I agree with the analysis. Now I'll be able to get a good night's sleep not worrying about "which ever will".:=)
Jan. 25
JamesLG

421 posts
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Guys:

I hears again last night that Miken was going to make a change in the near future to increase the durability of the U2. It sure would be nice if one of the reps would chime in and say if this is fact or not.

Thank You:

James
Jan. 26
Bob17

4 posts
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guys buy the latest cars boats guns,bow's(cross bow's now)snowmobiles,etc if they want the best good for them,myself I buy the old early 2003 ,2004 ultra 11 with asa stamps on them really seem to last longer than the new ones as far as pop(.25 swing &$300.00 dollar bat you do the math) if you dont have the swing it doesnt matter what you swing.
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