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Discussion: LV 75AAA schedule issue

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Sept. 2
OF1994

1 posts
Why not use the same format as the 80 Majors? Could be a 7 or 8 game round robin. Nobody gets shorted.
Sept. 2
DaveDowell
Men's 70
4323 posts
That's an "apples to oranges" theoretical comparison ... The 80-Majors are playing a FULL Round Robin internally, plus one crossover non-standings game for six of the seven teams vs. the Major+ teams ... Everyone plays everyone else in 80-Major, and that defines parity and equality of schedule ... In the 75-AAA, that's another animal with 14 teams ... Unless we play a 13-game Round Robin, someone is going to say: "You got to play Dave's Dummies (my team, and we're terrible!) and we had to play the "Super Studs", and they're the best team since the 1927 NY Yankees ... That's NOT FAIR!!" ... This is further evidence that a better schedule is very, very rarely the result when a team angrily forfeits out of a tournament, like happened yesterday in the 75-AAA ... Good luck!

Sept. 3
Lumberjack16
Men's 80
20 posts
There is further discussion on this subject under the tread "75 AAA NEEDS A PLAYER FOR THE WORLDS IN VEGAS."

Sorry Charlie - your tread got overrun by this subject.

Dave in the above tread, you indicated that the team that forfeited out was because of the schedule. I didn't see it, but I assumed that you had Seed 2 playing Seed 15 instead of the current bye shown for Seed 2. If I am wrong, I am sorry. If I am right, this schedule in no better or worse than the original schedule.

The obvious issue is SSUSA's decision not to have 75+ teams play more than two games a day. This criteria forces SSUSA into tournament formats vastly different form those other age groups are playing.

For a field this size, it would normally be two seeding games with a three game minimum double elimination bracket or something similar.

The way I see it and also my concern is that we play four games on the first two days that mean nothing.

Then Wednesday morning, all but the # One and # Two seeds play a game where winner goes on and loser goes home for 6 teams. If this happens to be a not so good showing, you have no chance to come back.

If you are good enough to win the first game, you have to win a second game on Wednesday to continue playing. The four losing team go home.

We all pay for, schedule hotels and airline flights for a four day tournament. However, after three days 10 of the 14 teams go home.

I will not argue the merits of your 2 game per day restriction. I am sure it is in partly due to the high temperatures we will be experiencing in Vegas and our old age.

That begs the question, why are we playing in Las Vegas in mid September?

I realize that there are scheduling and commitment issues for the near future. However, now is the time to ask is this the best we can do? Moving the tournament later in the year if you want to stay in Vegas or choosing a cooler site surely makes sense.

Most of the fields available in Vega are in such poor condition we should not be using them. This also suggests that it is time to do something different.

The great thing is SSUSA can do what ever it wants.

Rich Root
Co-Manager - Minnesota Masters 75AAA
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