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| March 17 TimMcElroy 942 posts | Complete detailed results will be sent to the office in the overnight. Here's a summary- 60-65 AAA 1. Team Illinois 60s 2. The Power 65s 55-60 Platinum 1. Walker Brothers 55s 2. Montgomery Swarm 60s 50 Platinum 1. MP/Primetime/Agent 23 (M+) 2. Texas Steel / CA Bat 50-55 AAA 1. TN Select 2. Our Dirt 50s 40 Gold 1. MO Horseman 2. So. Illinois Lightning Thanks everyone for a weekend of competive play! |
| March 19 Scott Harder Men's 60 49 posts | I want to thank SSUSA for holding this tournament, last year was impacted by the weather and made it hard on everyone. This year's weather was much better and closer to what normal weather is for this time of year; it was nice and fun to play. In the spirit of providing input, I would like to share a few of my observations, which may be worthless, but I can try. 1. The game scheduled times are too short; needs to be 1:30 not 1:20. We had one field that was an entire game behind before noon on Saturday. This snowballed with every game getting further behind. This caused the tournament directors to move the later games into Sunday morning. First time in my life I can remember playing at 7:30am, made especially hard when we didn't get off the field until 10:30pm the night before. Maybe put a couple games on Friday evening to relieve the pressure on the Saturday schedule. Another problem was the delays between games. After a double extra inning game, the next game was delayed 15 minutes before it started. If we shortened the pool play time limit and made the rest period only 5 minutes before the next game, this may help keep games on time. That was the only real issue I saw and it impacted a lot of people and plans. 2. The Baden ball is a fair ball, you have to hit it to get it out, but it does fly when struck well. However, what I have noticed since Vegas 2 years ago when it first came out, finally became obvious to me yesterday; that particular ball knuckles and moves around on a line drive worse than anything I've ever played with. I saw dozens of examples this weekend of line drive that are normally caught are missed because it wasn't taking a straight trajectory. These kind of hits have been part of the game forever, but they used to be rare. The games ran long because the outfielders on every field every level were unable to make catches that would normally be caught. Not sure how to quantify it but I'm curious if anyone else has observed the same thing? 3. Not a big deal but I think you have the 50 platinum results wrong. MP left before the final game, they were undefeated and waiting for the losers bracket to finish. They were the ones who left so they should be made the losers of both championship games, which would make Texas Steel the winners. TX stayed and were ready to play but MP left. MP should not be declared the winners just because they left. It should be TX Steel first, MP second, 615 third |
| March 19 TimMcElroy 942 posts | Thanks for the feedback. It isn't worthless, and it does matter. SCHEDULES- We planned to use 2 parks / 8 diamonds for this tournament. A few days before the reg deadline there weren't enough teams to justify the 2nd park so we made a decision to cancel Cedar Hill- and then a nummber of last minute entries came in. Prepare yourself for a paragraph of schedule-geek-speak With 24 teams / 66 games required to complete the tournament, here's what that would have required if we used the traditional 90 minute time slots. SAT- 8:00am, 9:30, 11:00, 12:30, 2:00, 3:30, 5:00, 6:30, 8:00, 9:30pm SUN- 8:00am, 9:30, 11:00, 12:30, 2:00, 3:30, 5:00 With new turf and no field prep required, I made the decision to schedule games in 80 minute intervals to get off the fields a bit earlier. A combination of things (big open innings, extra inning games, high scoring games) worked against us. I started looking for scheduling "outs" mid-afternoon on Saturday to reduce the long delays for the players. To my eye, there was a natural break available if I moved the last round of games on SAT night to first thing SUN morning. The decision got 8 teams out early on SAT. I locked the gate at 10pm on SAT night, but it would have been midnight without the move. BALLS- After 18 months of tournament play, I feel like the Baden ball is pretty fair. Performs well in varied heat / humidity circumstances and knuckles much less than the Rock ball that we used to use in Vegas. RESULTS- The 50 Platinum results are actually correct. As the "singleton team" giving an equalizer to all others, MP/Primetime winning the bracket triggered a 2nd set of awards to the highest finishing 50 Major team, which was TX Steel / CA Bat. Marcus handed them out and took photos before they left the park. Hope this helps. A huge THANK YOU to all of the teams who not only participated, but were largely complimentary even when fell behind. There is always room for improvement and I'll add your comments to the tournament notes that I've already made. Tim |
| March 22 titanhd Men's 60 639 posts | Tim ?? Please clarify rule on "50 Plat Results" Teams must play in the tournament championship game to earn and receive awards, including any berth to the Tournament of Champions or other invitational game or event. If a team declines to play, it will be assessed a forfeit loss and will not be declared a champion. |
| March 22 JohnO28 Men's 50 107 posts | Tim, Do you really believe the Baden Fire is comparable to the Rock ball that used to be used? We found that it performs fairly well but not quite as good as the Rocks did and unless we had old stock in Vegas they havent fixed that issue with the covers yet. They still got dirtier than any other ball we have ever used. |
| March 22 Scott Harder Men's 60 49 posts | Please don't take this as a criticism, but I agree with JohnO28. The first thing I noticed about the Baden ball was that it takes on the color of the infield after the first inning. I play mostly in the OF and that ball moves like no other I've played with. It may be hot bats, but the other balls I have to catch don't seem to jump around, slice, and move like the Baden. Again, not complaining just offering an observation. |
| March 22 DaveDowell Men's 70 4321 posts | @Scott Harder: No criticism noted ... @JohnO28: I'm pretty confident that Tim's Rock v. Baden comparison was in the context of only the "knuckleball effect" on sharply hit line drive type plays ... The Rocks we used in Las Vegas are otherwise a completely different animal than any other ball we've ever used ... A more accurate comparison may be the Baden v. BSN Microcell™ technology balls ... They are somewhat performance similar ... And I concur on the Baden "dirty balls" (pardon the word choice!) issue ... |
| March 22 kwl20 1 posts | i thought the tournament went real well. one point i would like to make is that the concession stand closed way to early. your left out there with no water or food. |
