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Discussion: MAJOR PLUS PLAYERS NEEDED

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Nov. 8, 2015
johnny mongo
Men's 55
29 posts
MAJOR PLUS PLAYERS NEEDED
OREGON TEAM LOOKING FOR PLAYERS THAT CAN COMPETE IN 2016 AT THE
MAJOR PLUS LEVEL!
CONTACT HENRY @ 541-778-0252
must border state of OREGON
Nov. 8, 2015
johnny mongo
Men's 55
29 posts
This is 55+
Nov. 10, 2015
johnny mongo
Men's 55
29 posts
NEED IS AT PITCHER AND MIDDLE INFIELDERS
Nov. 10, 2015
TheCat43
Men's 55
26 posts
This is a pitch for a great group of guys that I have played with in the past (and still do when it's not a conflict). I would gladly join, but I have to defend with Summy's 55. C'mon, help a bunch of good ball players represent the Northwest!!! You will have fun testing your metal in the M+ with them. They will be in the thick of things!!
Nov. 10, 2015
rightrj1
Men's 55
286 posts
I'm an outfielder, I guess all those spots are filled?
Nov. 10, 2015
LeeLee50
140 posts
rightrj1

Since you say you can only play O.F. can you throw and hit ?
Nov. 10, 2015
rightrj1
Men's 55
286 posts
LeeLee I've been playing AA for about 6 years now, but I have always longed to play MAJOR PLUS, I can't throw that well, but I'm a life time 400 hitter. That average is better then the Major league ball players... So I think I maybe compete in major plus..what you think?
Nov. 10, 2015
LeeLee50
140 posts
Yeah you might be ready for tryout?

LOL
Nov. 24, 2015
tumbleweed
10 posts
You still looking for a P I'm 56 just stopped playing utrip I've been pitching senior for 5 years throw right hit left and I can run looking to play against the best in the Workd I live in Seattle but willing to travel targeting Vegas for another ring 425-280-9509 message text email madirishsports@yahoo.com
Nov. 24, 2015
antieinstein
Men's 70
53 posts

How much you paying? Johnny Mongo
Nov. 24, 2015
The real deal
Men's 70
114 posts
This thread is hilarious! Thanks for the levity, mongrol...
Dec. 12, 2015
johnny mongo
Men's 55
29 posts
We have enough pitching now, Thank you!
Still some need for left side infield.
Dec. 12, 2015
Webbie25
Men's 70
2414 posts
No spot for an out of area, aging pseudo infielder? I can play left out, pitch as long as strikes are not necessary, and outfield as long as I am not required to cover much area or catch the ball! And I still have home run power on my grandson's little league field. Thanks!
Dec. 13, 2015
Webbie25
Men's 70
2414 posts
I meant to be tongue in cheek, but in retrospect went a little too far. Sorry. I'm still looking to play M+ ball, but at 63 may be too old to help.
Dec. 17, 2015
johnny mongo
Men's 55
29 posts
For who are interested, we won Las Vegas in 2015, so are standards remain high, quality people, quality players.
Dec. 18, 2015
TAT22
74 posts
In keeping the Major+ program vibrant and growing, this team from Oregon is looking for players. Which is precisely why the Plus program should do away with the border states rule entirely, or at least up the number of players you can get from other than bordering states to 4. I think at the top level in any age bracket the talent gets quite hard to find and a lot of the times your bordering states can't supply enough. IHMO
Dec. 19, 2015
Webbie25
Men's 70
2414 posts
TAT22-I agree totally with you. Especially in cases like mine-I believe there is now only one Major Plus team in my age bracket (60) that I would not be an out of area player for. That makes it tough to find a team.
Dec. 19, 2015
LeeLee50
140 posts
What about keeping the rules the same and moving up more teams. If you look at 50 division it appears that is what is happening. 6 Major teams were bumped to Major Plus which had 13 total teams and 13 AAA teams were bumped to Majors which had 40 teams. The AAA division had 68 teams, the players are there they just need to move up. Allowing teams to go around and picking the best players across the nation isn't going to help develop Major Plus.

JMHO
Dec. 20, 2015
Webbie25
Men's 70
2414 posts
LeeLee-they have done everything they can to move more teams up, but teams either break up or move back down as soon as they can. You are debating with one on another thread right now. I just don't believe it will ever get much bigger than it is right now. You are correct, the players are there, but they won't move up for a myriad of reasons, including friendship, proximity to teams, etc. etc.
I may end up playing 55M or something this next year just because there are no teams close to me at 60M+.
Dec. 20, 2015
81vette
5 posts
I am a Middle infielder, but great at 3rd also, that played for Cal Energy 55 Major last year. Broke my hand last year in Tracy so didn't play much after that. Great soft hands, good arm, and will leave my feet when needed. Played a lot of 2nd base after the injury last year. The team picked up a SS from San Diego, so I am not being asked back this year. Played SS for 55 AAA Tri C Team out of Sacramento when we won the National Championship in Las Vegas in 2014. Line drive hitter that will hit between .650 and .800 every weekend for you. Travel is not a problem, I just need a team to play on. Played against MTC Varsity and JV all lat year, and many of those players know me. Played against Flatliners a couple of times last year, and those players might remember me playing 2nd against them in the Western Worlds in Elk Grove, CA last year.
Dec. 20, 2015
LeeLee50
140 posts
I wish you luck, hopefully Flatliners give you a chance. They always seem like a pretty good group of guys.
Dec. 20, 2015
LeeLee50
140 posts
Webbie you are correct they do everything they can to move teams up but they also do a lot of things to allow those teams to move down. You must play in at least 3 events to apply to be re classed, so let me give you a scenario for Cali teams. You get bumped at LV Worlds, then you go play Rock n Reno, Cal Cup and Western Nationals in your new division and stink up the joint, then you apply to be reclassed and bang now you are back down to where you wanted to be for LV Worlds.

Not trying to offend anyone but this is a possibility and it has already happened. If a team is bumped make them play awhile and I know how miserable that it can be, when you have some very good teams that seldom lose games through out the year but it is what it is.
Dec. 20, 2015
Jawood
Men's 50
943 posts
The trouble with allowing Major+ teams to have 2 out of area players are the one's that have the resources and can afford it. Many Major+ teams don't have the funds to do this.

Johnny, will your team travel north this season into Washington?
Dec. 21, 2015
TAT22
74 posts
Jawood, the trouble is, their are Major+ players out there in certain regions but not enough of them to make a Major+ team. The ability for Major+ teams to have 2 players from non border states keeps those players playing that have the Major+ tag. I think if you bumped that number up by 2 you would have even MORE Major+ teams, heck there were 3 Major teams reclassified to Major+ mid season and only 1 went to World's.
Dec. 21, 2015
LeeLee50
140 posts
SSUSA,

Might need to look into only allowing certain regions to pick up 2 out of region players. The sunshine states have a tendency to have enough players to choose from and allowing them to pick 2 very good players out of region might have an impact. Just throwing out some ideals.
Dec. 21, 2015
TAT22
74 posts
LeeLee50 your coastal teams i.e. CA, FL and of course AZ usually have no problem with enough Major+ players, it's the other regions i was referring to, like northeast, mid-west, upper mid-west, northwest etc. Also a Major+ team is already allowed to pick up 2 players from non border states, I was merely suggesting that SSUSA consider upping that number to 4. There are not that many Major+ teams, consider the fact that there were 3 times as many teams in the Major bracket for worlds and how many times have we seen a Major team get bumped only to disband or players go to the next age bracket the very next season!
Dec. 21, 2015
johnny mongo
Men's 55
29 posts
81 Vette, you left no contact info. Call Henry (Mgr) at 541-778-0252 or leave contact info here.
Dec. 21, 2015
LeeLee50
140 posts
TAT22,

I agree with you. I was possibly thinking not allowing the coastal teams to pick up any. Here in CA, we should be able to fill a roster, if you are going out of region to pick up 2 players I would guess that they are very good players (impact players).
Dec. 21, 2015
joel 1975
131 posts
try to play major plus in the Midwest not any team's if you are 55 major plus no need going to brick yard,lansing(northern),humphry memorial(Toledo)(ISA) Columbus & if your 60 good luck finding anyone to play in 60 major must less major plus.
Dec. 22, 2015
Webbie25
Men's 70
2414 posts
I did this quickly so please forgive any errors, but I think it illustrates my point about out of area players in M+. These states have NO access to a 60M+ team, therefore, any 60 M+ level player in one of these states is out of area for any team he wants to play for (and also has much larger travel expenses)-WA, ID, MT, WY, CO, UT, NE, KS, MS, ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, SC, CT. These states have access to ONE team-ND, SD, NM, TX, OK, LA, MO, FL, NY, DE, MD, MS. California has 6 teams (Joe Browns is no more). IN and OH have 2 teams each. Out of 17 60 M+ teams, I believe 10 played in worlds, and AZ Rogue, who played in worlds, is also gone now. That is a total of 16 states with NO access and 12 more with access to 1 team (28 of 48 states with AK and HI not included). And there is even less access to teams that went to worlds. I know that if you raise the limit to 4 out of area players it raises the specter of teams with money getting stronger, but I believe it would give more players a chance to play at that level.
SPA does have an impact players list. Maybe SSUSA could have one of those also to limit out of area IMPACT players, but that would allow teams to put non-impact players from out of area on the team, and maybe we would get more teams. I realize it does get tough to be fair about who is truly an impact player and opens a brand new can of worms. I thought I would put this out for thought, though.
Dec. 22, 2015
DCPete
409 posts
Wouldn't raising the number of out of area players also increase the M+ teams competitive advantage when playing out-of-bracket vs Major teams?
Dec. 22, 2015
joel 1975
131 posts
nice job webbie I don't think line drive(ohio) is playing this year they ended up not going to vegas.
Dec. 22, 2015
TAT22
74 posts
DCPete, that's one of the reasons for striving to play at the top level, I think that if you allowed the number of players from a non bordering state to increase to 4 that a M+ could pick up, you could change the rules when you play a major team to include playing to the M+ home run rule and runs per inning that could definitely make the playing field much more level. Give the major team an opportunity to hit more home runs and score more runs an inning.
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