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March 22, 2018
smitty63
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Dead ball ground rule double situation.

wow, Just when I thought i was starting to figure out what a runner had to do in senior softball?? If a batter is awarded 1st base on a walk he has to acquire the bag before getting a courtesy runner or he will be called out when the C/R touches the bag. Why doesn't a batter-runner awarded 2nd have to touch both 1st and 2nd?
March 21, 2018
smitty63
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: runner scoring

Let me thank you again for your time. After re-reading the way the quirky rule is written and your explanation I understand you getting the out and that the runners have to return on my 1st scenario. Is there a specific reason why the batter-runner not advancing to the bag is treated differently than a normal runner not advancing?
In my 2nd scenario I don't see how you can apply the rule to the runner stopping and standing in the base line. The rule specifically states 2 things that have to happen to apply it. 1. That the runner has to fail to advance to first base 2. AND he has to enter his team area. It doesn't say OR
March 20, 2018
smitty63
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: runner scoring

thanks for the replies, I have played a lot of softball but not in this organization and rules. I don't think I would call this rule a bit quirky maybe major quirky. I have another "quirky" question. Is this rule only applied if the runner enters his team area? What if he doesn't advance all the way and then just stands in the base line and a team mate hands him his glove and he heads out into the field?





March 19, 2018
smitty63
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: runner scoring

Am I understanding this rule right?
8.3 • BATTER-RUNNER IS OUT
C. When he fails to advance to first base and enters his team area after a batted fair ball, a base on balls, or catcher obstruction. EFFECT: The ball is dead, the batter-runner is out and runners cannot advance.

Here is a play, 5 runs per inning limit and a team has bases loaded the 5th run on 3rd base with 0 outs and the batter hits a single to the outfield all the runners advanced 1 base on the base hit. The batter failed to advance to 1st base thinking that the 5th run would score because of 0 outs and he enters the dugout.
What happens to the runners do they get returned? Does the umpire just call the runner out for entering the dugout or is the call made on an appeal? If on appeal then it's a time play and the run would score?
Is advancing to 1st base different than any other bag?
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