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Real name:
bill FENTON

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FOLSOM, CA

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Men's 60

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Oct. 28, 2018
wintermutt
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Purpose for allowing base runners to "run thru" or "over run" bases?

OK. Thank you for clarification. I will ask the league commissioner of my over 60 league.
Oct. 27, 2018
wintermutt
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Purpose for allowing base runners to "run thru" or "over run" bases?

C. Running through a base: If running through, runners MUST run wide and avoid the
fielder(s). As much as possible, runners should run to the OPPOSITE side from the throw.
Runners are safe when touching ground, even with or beyond the base, before a fielder either
contacts the base with the ball or tags the runner.

I found this. Does not say anything about being automatically out if on the wrong side of the throw.
Oct. 27, 2018
wintermutt
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Purpose for allowing base runners to "run thru" or "over run" bases?

In the over 60 league i have been playing in the runner is called out if the runner is on the wrong side of third or second base as the runner runs through. For example - runner is advancing from first to second base as hitter hits ball to pitcher and runs to first. If the runner advancing to second base from first is on the left side of second base as the runner runs through, the runner is called out, even with no apparent collision or interference. If the runner ran through on the right side the runner is not automatically out. OTOH if the runner advancing from first to second does not run through, but rounds second and heads to third, the correct side does not apply.
//That being said, other than trying to avoid being tagged out, there is no rule that I’m aware of that specifies a runner is to be called out for not following the correct path.//
As Omar above states //3. It is also not required that the runner touch the base when advancing on a play. Normally if the ball is coming from his right side, he runs past on the left of the base and vice versa. It is easy for the umpire to see if he "touched" or crossed the base.// In my over 60 league, if you are on the incorrect side, you are automatically out.
Oct. 26, 2018
wintermutt
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Purpose for allowing base runners to "run thru" or "over run" bases?

The only home runs I am aware of that are hit and sit would be over the fence home runs. In one league I play in over the fence is usually an out. Regarding a home run that is not over the fence (apologies for not being more clear) let's say the ball hit the left field fence and stayed in bounds. The runner rounds second base and is heading to third. The outfielder relays the ball to the rover, who is soon to throw it either home? or to third base? (no one knows quite yet). Third baseman is standing to the right of the baseline between second and third. Here the runner is stuck. If the runner intends to try to make it home (how good is the catcher is a real factor here) the runner is going to round third base. The rover can take advantage of this by throwing to the third baseman (who could be standing to the right of the baseline or on third), which means the runner will be called out for not following the correct path. If the runner goes to the left of the baseline (a tortuous path since the runner rounded second) the runner will not be able to round third and head for home. Instead the runner will probably wind up running through third and into the fence, thus depriving the runner of his/her home run. If I am incorrect in my assessment, please tell me. If I am correct, is it S.O.P. to simply not try for the home run? This situation can also happen on a double in which a decision needs to be made by the runner whether to go to third or not. I suspect this problem comes up mainly with very fast runners, so some of you may not have seen it before. Thanks in advance.
Oct. 26, 2018
wintermutt
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: My conclusions from 2 prior discussions, what are yours?

It is relevant to me anyway. Sorry I bothered you all.
Oct. 24, 2018
wintermutt
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: My conclusions from 2 prior discussions, what are yours?

I dislike playing in different leagues with different rules. I like the no sliding rule, but I would leave it at that at most. There is no scientific evidence that any of these rule changes actually forestalls arthritis. If deceleration results in muscle pulls, suggest working on the hamstrings and calf muscles to prevent muscle pulls. Playing senior softball rules with run through etc. reminds me of driving in the U.K. It can be done, but I wish Napoleon had won at Waterloo.
Oct. 24, 2018
wintermutt
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Purpose for allowing base runners to "run thru" or "over run" bases?

So when you are rounding the bases (say for a home run) you run the bases exactly as you would in a traditional rule softball league?
Oct. 24, 2018
wintermutt
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Purpose for allowing base runners to "run thru" or "over run" bases?

I play in a normal rule league (no run through second etc.) and a run through league. I find it difficult to shift my running strategy between the leagues. Here is my question. When one is running from first to second to third in a run through league and the ball is hit to the outfield, do you run a path inside a line drawn from first to second? And if you do, what happens when you touch second base and continue to third? Do you touch second base with your right foot then curve towards third and try to keep your feet inside of the base lines? Because this seems like a very difficult maneuver to me when I am sprinting. Same issue "rounding" third - seems to me I am going to run into the fence unless I do some serious slowing down. Not trying to re-invent the wheel here, just wondering what everyone else does.
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