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2023-24 SSUSA NATIONAL RULES COMMITTEE MEETINGS • Official Minutes

» SSUSA Staff: The link below redirects to the Official Minutes of the 2023 SSUSA ...
      »SSUSA Staff: EFFECTIVE DATE: December 1, 2023 (for the 2024 Season)
1 Dec. 15, 2023 2147

69 year olds playing up in 70 Reclassification

» softball4b: This rule change is going to create an interesting set of scenarios, ...
      »TimMcElroy: Answer to Q1 & Q2- The 69s / 70s scenario works exactly the way it ...
      »softball4b: Thanks, I am not familiar on how that division works. Is a 69M player ...
      »TimMcElroy: Correct.
3 Dec. 14, 2023 565

State residency

» LEF #2: What is the rule / guideline for players that reside in 2 states? I ...
      »SSUSA Staff: LEF #2 ... There are several criteria that may assist you in ...
1 Dec. 14, 2023 438

Rules question

» Woody22: A batter hits a grounder. The fielder makes a bad throw to first and ...
      »DaveDowell: The instance of a batter runner being hit by a thrown ball is not ...
      »Woody22: Thx. However it was a little more complicated than that. The ball was ...
      »B.J.: woody.. I agree with DD if in the umpires judgment the runner ...
3 Dec. 8, 2023 614

"The Pickle"

» MS: I play in a number of senior leagues in Thousand Oaks Ca. I have ...
      »B.J.: MS.. in SSUSA a runner can make multiple reverses there is no ...
      »Turning2: MS - You should cut and paste these local rules to allow supportive ...
2 Nov. 6, 2023 615

Question for Dave Regarding border states

» Westersizzle33: Hi Dave, could you help to clarify a rule regarding order states? Our ...
      »DaveDowell: Rulebook §13.1(3) • TEAM REGIONS OF SSWC (on page 64) A. Bordering ...
      »softball4b: What is the rule for Canadian teams?
      »DaveDowell: Mike ... See Rulebook §13.1(3)D.4. on page 65 ... "..The Canadian ...
      »Enviro-Vac: There is a caveat to that rule; ..."EXCEPTION: Major Plus teams may ...
      »Westersizzle33: Dave thank you for clarifying. Much appreciated
      »softball4b: Play Ball
6 Oct. 25, 2023 819

Batter out of the box

» wbaum: Am I the only one who feels the stepping out of the box rule needs to ...
      »Enviro-Vac: 100% agreed
      »Chad303: With the way batter's boxes are painted on turf and grass, the front ...
      »DaveDowell: SSUSA considers rules amendments one time per year ... Here's the ...
      »Full Count: Well said WBAUM. I quoted you and sent an email. I think most ...
      »wjconnor: WBAUM - Agreed! After what we saw at Big League Dreams in Las Vegas ...
      »DaveDowell: What box????
      »Junior2412: Chad303........that's a TOTALLY valid point about the different size ...
      »JohnO28: It's ironic that Dave used that guys pics, it's been assumed by ...
      »mad dog: so lets take away a pitcher can pitch if the batter can't hit ...
      »Dbax: Exactly!
      »BruceinGa: Who rattled Mad Dog's chain??
      »spoonplugger: Looks like BLD has dirt infield ?? Hit from the batter’s box Not ...
      »DaveDowell: BLD has artificial turf infields (including the foul territory areas) ...
      »txnighttrain: As a person who has umpired, I would have called the person in that ...
      »txnighttrain: The box is supposed to be 7ft long and 3ft wide that includes the ...
      »wbaum: My point is still, the box does not get moved forward for ssusa. The ...
      »caps14: Played last week in the 55's at big league dreams the ump called ...
      »Dbax: It’s not too hard to stay in the box.
      »titanhd: JohnO28. You made the statement in a contained thread. . "NOBODY ...
      »JohnO28: TitanHD, I have been told by SSUSA HQ specifically Ant that no ...
      »JayPar: The picture that Dave added isn't even at the correct fields, I ...
      »DaveDowell: JayPar ... That's a joke picture and you probably shouldn't read too ...
      »caps14: Jaypar is 100% correct it was a circus there the box the umpires the ...
      »nickname36: "EXACTLY" Amazing, I post the dimensions and height of a ...
      »big unit: First of all SSUSA representatives should act a little more ...
      »hitnrun5: All you tall guys think you have problems with the batters box, try ...
      »ChiPrimeMarty: My $.02: The batter's box should enable batters to hit strikes ...
      »Guppy7325: I have a simple solution. Why not take batting practice with a ...
      »JCColorado: The issue at BLD is that not all the plates were in the same place ...
      »USAMTZ: IMO, the main issue is that there is not a unified approach from all ...
      »HAT MAN: My take from this past weekend. I don't mind the rule as it's been ...
      »mck71: And that is why Vinny I personally like what was proposed by wbaum ...
      »Bruce M: Hope the folks that want to change the rule listen carefully to ...
      »Turning2: The batters box dimensions as currently used by SSUSA and most other ...
      »nickname36: "EXACTLY" Everybody seems to have a excuse or remedy but nothing is ...
      »Full Count: I believe most umpires don't appreciate being put in the position to ...
      »TimMcElroy: I'm going to disagree with you Full Count. Are you okay with umps ...
      »IDon'tKnow 3rdBase: A lot of discussion about using USSSA batter box rules. The USSSA ...
      »mck71: IDK3B - I don't think that is why. Sure the pitcher tries to release ...
      »Webbie25: I’ve been playing slow pitch softball for 55 years now. Being a ...
      »nickname36: "EXACTLY" Must of been bored in marana az but then again its close to ...
      »Webbie25: You are right, nickname. But I had fun.LOL In a nutshell, the ...
      »christom10: Webbie25 - there are 2 issues I see. One is Dave's attempt at humor ...
      »Webbie25: Christom-so do we draw a line to establish where the point is that ...
      »Hank Heffner: Why do you think the batters box is there? The box is there so the ...
      »Webbie25: If this is a concern for you as a batter, maybe you should carry a ...
      »SSUSA Staff: We're going to shut this down now due to an "excessive pitch count" ...
47 Oct. 9, 2023 3447

You make the call

» Perl: Question for SPA umpires. Rule 6 Pitching Sec 4 The pitcher may ...
      »B.J.: Perl.. you might get more answers if you post this on a SPA site.. ...
1 Sept. 30, 2023 493

Equilizer runs in a mixed bracket seeding process

» gobama: In 70 ball if you have a AAA and major mixed bracket do the 5 runs ...
      »DaveDowell: YES
1 Sept. 25, 2023 427

softballs that are kept in a cooler

» Oldballs: what is the rule about a team throwing in a softball that has been ...
      »DaveDowell: Rulebook §3.4(6) • PENALTY FOR USING AN ALTERED BAT OR SOFTBALL C. ...
      »DaveDowell: »1tufout: which balls will we be using? Baden Fire 44/375? Thank ...
      »1tufout: Ok, and thank you Dave
      »HAT MAN: Dave Are teams allowed to buy the baden 44/375 from the internet? Or ...
      »DaveDowell: Vinny ... YES, so long as they are identical to the ones we will have ...
      »HAT MAN: Thanks Dave So it must have a ssusa stamp on the ball or it can't be ...
      »DaveDowell: I'm presuming that the logo presence would be a component of ...
      »Full Count: Just to confirm. The same senior softball Baden Fire is available ...
      »DaveDowell: Full Count ... NO, that's NOT what my posts said OR intended to ...
      »curveball: Just to convey a "Paul Harvey" moment, the rest of the story. I was ...
      »DaveDowell: curveball ... Thanks for proving my point! ... That entire exercise ...
      »tg69: DD. Back to the original post. Balls kept in a cooler. What is the ...
      »DaveDowell: The "ball in a cooler" cheat alters the technical performance of that ...
      »Asylum: Good Evening, I have the same question as "softball4b" are we ...
      »BANDITOS180: Asylum, I have the same question. I have about 10 of the Baden that ...
      »SSUSA Staff: The ONLY allowed softballs for play at the World Championships are ...
      »Asylum: will the stamped balls be available for trade at the managers meeting ...
      »DaveDowell: NO and YES to your questions ... The authorized softballs are on site ...
18 Sept. 24, 2023 2199

What do 12 and 6 foot arcs really look like?

» Bruce M: Here is an attempt to demonstrate them: ...
      »DaveDowell: The easiest visualization I mention to players is the height of the ...
      »Bruce M: Yes, Dave, that is why I did the video on a basketball court. Hope ...
      »softball4b: I don't know if I could hit off of you, but it would be fun. Good ...
      »mck71: Excellent video Bruce. When I get questioned (usually on higher ...
      »HSquared: Thanks Bruce. As a 6'-0" pitcher myself, it's easy to achieve the 6 ...
      »Ozone8: Very helpful, thank you.
      »lb16: My rant on pitch arc. I have seen consistently in all senior ...
      »Full Count: I think it really only matters what the umpires interpretation is. ...
      »Parman: Going to 6-10 ft arc would eliminate nearly all of the barking at ...
      »FOFO: THe tough part is the inconsistency of some officials. I don't ...
      »Mikelmart: This 6-12 pitch falls under perception vs. reality. Every ...
      »SS11: So Bruce, if it goes over the backboard, it went over 12', right? ...
      »DaveDowell: SS11 ... Probably not ... The "clamshell" style backboard Bruce was ...
      »SS11: Dave - you are almost correct. But those style of backboards range ...
      »Full Count: Nice video Bruce.
      »Dbax: SS11. Nope. I asked the question on the post. He said the top of the ...
16 Sept. 14, 2023 1560

Illegal batter substitution

» Casey39: At what point should a manager call an illegal batter substitution if ...
      »Donna McGuire: The unreported substitute rule and illegal batter rules can be found ...
      »Nancy Allen: Donna, totally agree. I was scorekeeper for our team. I never ...
      »Casey39: What happens if the batter takes a pitch, or fouls off a pitch and ...
      »Donna McGuire: He is in the game and continues his at-bat.
      »Dbax: What if it’s a batting out of order situation?
      »Casey39: Donna, thanks for the clarification on this rule. All associations ...
      »Donna McGuire: Batting out of order is the same. Wait until the at-bat ends to ...
      »Dbax: 👍👍
      »nickname36: "EXACTLY" I agree totally....
9 Sept. 10, 2023 879

Duplicate jersey numbers

» Casey39: Can we have duplicate jersey numbers on the game roster? You know us ...
      »Casey39: *wear it. Sorry, public education.
      »DaveDowell: Jim ... A scorekeeper for the opposition and/or an alert umpire will ...
2 Sept. 8, 2023 681

Rescinding the 11th defensive player rule

» Fuzz: In my opinion, adding the 11th defensive player to the 65+ Division ...
      »Turning2: Fuzz - Some feedback per your request. I can feel your pain, i play ...
1 Sept. 8, 2023 726

Definition of "moderate speed" of a pitch

» BillC48: Section 6.6, Legal Delivery, paragraph G. states: "The pitch shall be ...
      »DieselDan: I'm thinking what would be considered a pitch that is too fast ...
      »Uncle Mike: Speed usually doesn't come up in my past discussions that I have had ...
      »Enviro-Vac: The question posed by BillC48 is a good one. Since the pitching ...
      »B.J.: if the pitcher is within the 6' to 12' range it's almost impossible ...
      »mck71: Bill, I agree with BJ. As an umpire AND a pitcher, it's not easy to ...
5 Sept. 7, 2023 609

Force out?

» garyheifner: If your an infielder and dive for a grounder. Ball is in your glove ...
      »DaveDowell: YES ... Rarely is a force out completed by touching the base with the ...
      »Dbax: I hope the umpires and directors from the Western Nationals read this.
      »DaveDowell: "...Force plays, or force outs, are one of the two ways to get a ...
3 Aug. 27, 2023 767

Unfair Equalizer when 60AAA team plays a 65AAA

» BattyMatty: I have a problem with the equalizer rule when a 60AAA team plays a ...
      »DaveDowell: Batty ... I suspect your "problem" stems from your misconception that ...
      »BattyMatty: Dave, the 60AAA team does not get an extra fielder when playing the ...
      »TimMcElroy: There IS a difference in mobility as you climb the age ladder. It is ...
3 Aug. 23, 2023 943

What's the Call?

» RDSinNEOHIO: This one happened in a league game. Runners on second and first, one ...
      »Enviro-Vac: Did the ball at any point hit the ground before or during it's ...
      »DRobb: Doesn’t matter whether the ball hits the ground or not. As soon as ...
      »B.J.: DRobb is correct as long as the closest infielder to the ball was ...
3 Aug. 15, 2023 603

Tag Up

» shortstop33: Can I back up behind the bag and get a running start on the tag up, ...
      »B.J.: there is no specific rule that I know of that says you can't .. I ...
      »DaveDowell: I'm in agreement with B.J. on this, with one minor caveat: The base ...
      »shortstop33: MLB, ASA, NCAA have rules against it but like BJ could not find a ...
      »DieselDan: If I don't know the umpire, I let them know that I'll have one foot ...
4 Aug. 9, 2023 603

Pitching Rule

» NYGNYY: Does the pitcher have to start with the ball being presented outside ...
      »B.J.: C. No ... The pitcher must come to a full and complete stop with the ...
      »BruceinGa: The rule is somewhat misleading. Rule says ball in front of body. I ...
2 Aug. 9, 2023 814
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