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May 11
JohnO28
Men's 50
127 posts
Who decides?
Have always wondered who is decides how many days prior to a tournament to stop taking teams and when the latest the money can be paid? Thought about it several times and was just curious and this weekend is a perfect example of why IU ask. Next weekend there is a tourney in Iowa and one in Michigan. The last final payment date for the IA tourney is May 4th and the original last payment day for MI was May 10 which now appears to be extended to May 20th the day before the tourney actually starts.

Iowa tourney is closed for payment and the first wave of Play in games have already been posted and there is still 9 more days to collect money for MI. Shouldn't there be a registration date, payment date prior to a tourney start date? That way every team has ample time do decide sleeping accomodations. If they are still taking money there is very little chance of having a schedule more than a day or two ahead of time.

A lot of time a hotel with discounted pricing will be listed but the cutoff date to get the discount is prior to the schedule being posted. A lot of people who live within a few hours will choose to drive in the morning of if they have a 9 00 or later start then they wouldn't need a hotel for the Friday night. If they have an 8 00 game them might need to get there the night before but if they can save a night of hotel costs then some people will.

Just seems like there is no rhyme or reason as to how cutoff and payment dates are figured. Would be good if there was something set up where all directors followed the same pattern so players knew what they were doing.
May 11
BH44
Men's 50
75 posts
Who decides?
Good catch John - I notice that today too - I did send text yesterday to find out no Friday games but we are a week away and no idea when we are playing or what field.
May 11
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
1438 posts
Who decides?
John, if you will look more carefully at the tournaments, both are being run by independent directors. I seriously doubt if they talked about any of this with each other. If a tournament is run by the national office, things are carefully coordinated for all of those tournaments by them.
May 11
JohnO28
Men's 50
127 posts
Who decides?
Nancy Allen, I fully understand they are being run by independent directors. But that doesn't really change my questions any. The National office could still set some parameters that all directors follow considering to fact that directors have to go through the National office to be able to host a tourney.
May 11
DaveDowell
Men's 70
4359 posts
Who decides?
JohnO28 ... Independent contract tournament directors are given a complete set annually of criteria and expectations to comply with to host an SSUSA sanctioned event ... The responsibility is fully on them and, not so surprisingly, there is a very broad range of compliance ... That range, on a 1:100 scale varies between about 3 and 97 ... We publish contact information for all TD's on the individual event pages of this website ... If you have specific questions, that would be the place to start ... Good luck ...

May 11
JohnO28
Men's 50
127 posts
Who decides?
Dave, this question wasnt to call out any director at all. This weekend was used solely to show the contrast in tourney to tourney information. I assume the individual directors don't have the ability to post their information about their tourney directly on this site. So shouldn't that responsibility fall on SSUSA to set the parameters of when the registration process and last available day to pay when the tourney is first posted on the website? Then when the tourney is officially closed to sign up talk with the director and find out how many and which teams have registered and paid and post accordingly on the page? The last persons responsibility it should be is the players themselves to reach out to anyone. Simply to just pass it off and say the directors aren't following up and telling players to do it really isn't going to solve the problem is it? National office needs to take some responsibility by setting deadlines and having directors adhere to it. We as players and teams have to adhere to deadlines and standards and we're the customers. You guys are the service providers we shouldn't have to track down information.
May 12
DaveDowell
Men's 70
4359 posts
Who decides?
JohnO28 ... It seems you may not fully understand the degree of latitude we provide to our Independent Tournament Directors and the level of confidence and appreciation we have for them ... They set their own event parameters, implement them, and run their events for your and their mutual benefit ... By design, those events are administered differently from the Sacramento Home Office managed tournaments ... We publish contact information for the IDT's running each event ... We post whatever they want us to do, but if they haven't asked, it's really easy for you to reach out and ask them yourself ... You're highly likely to get accurate information without the risk of us guessing on either what you want to know or what the IDT has in mind ... Your inference that we somehow have failed the membership by not including each and every detail you want to see is an unreasonable expectation on your part ... Good luck ...

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