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Discussion: You make the call

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April 18
Mikelmart

153 posts
Had three interesting scenarios in Las Vegas this past weekend.
1. Four of first five hitters in top of first inning stepped clearly out of the batters box when making contact.
Fans in stands point this out to the umpire, umpire does nothing.
2. Batter is due up, however the batter is in the bathroom and everyone waits on the batter two minutes, umpire does not call batter out but waits.
3. Flip flop occurs, team on the field does not stay on the field but calls "water break", umpire allows the defensive team to go to the dugout for water.
What calls should be made if the rules are to be enforced?
April 18
B.J.

1113 posts
when I worked tournament ball I ALWAYS had a pre game meeting with both coaches and explained what I expected which included keeping the batters in the batters boxes.. if this is a problem you should have brought it up with the tour. uic or tour. dir.

batter in the bathroom I would tend to give him a break and wait a couple minutes..

flip flop.. it would depend on weather conditions.. being in vegas if it was real hot I would give the team a couple minute break to hydrate
April 18
Mikelmart

153 posts
78 degrees in Las Vegas
The flip flop team had only scored four runs so it wasn't like they expended that much energy on defense.
April 19
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
1438 posts
Mikelmart, was the batter's box marked? Honestly I rarely listen to fans as they are usually emotional and do not understand rules. Out of the box is an emotional subject. Rarely when one someone points it out are they correct. If they had been out of the batter's box, I would have already made that call.

Batter in bathroom, strike 2, then strike 3, out. That or give me a sub.

The team would have stayed in the field, or I would be calling balls on the batter(s). I would have been very verbal. After a couple of walks, I am sure that they might pay attention. 78 is not that hot for sure.

I might be considered meaner than B.J., but after years of doing this, the players and fans are not the ones to be controlling the game. Yes, I am a horrible babysitter.
April 19
B.J.

1113 posts
you big meanie ...lol
April 19
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
1438 posts
B.J., I know. It does get their attention. Never had to do it often, but they are not running over me.
April 20
Mikelmart

153 posts
Nancy it was at BLD in LV, batters box lines are definite, four out of five hitters is a bit much even if the fans are emotinal or not. The umpire should be paying attention regardless.
April 21
BH44
Men's 50
75 posts
BLD is surprising, my team has been called out many times for being out of the box normally they make you have both feet in. Nancy that is why I like you doing our games - you run a tight ship :)
April 21
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
1438 posts
BH44, I have heard a lot of complaints about the box at BLD in the past. I have been there but never officiated there; so I do not really have any knowledge one way or the other on it. Way to make my day. I always like having you and your team on my field as well. I learned to umpire in the inner city, and you had to be tough and be able to control the game. I did learn not to use over 2 syllable words and teach them the word firetruck. I just hope that people perceive me a fair on the field. I do want to be known for hustle as well. I am definitely loud enough for the outfield to hear me. Your poor catcher. Have a great season and hope to see you somewhere soon.
April 21
TimMcElroy

967 posts
I was the Director at BLD last week. Never heard a thing about any of this. You should address any concerns in real time, at the park. There isn't much that I can do to help days later on a message board.
April 21
BruceinGa
Men's 70
3233 posts
I agree with Nancy on 2 and 3 but maybe not 1.
Vegas is notorious for batters boxes being short. Ump should have checked this out before the first pitch. If he didn't then make the call.
April 21
Webbie25
Men's 70
2416 posts
Tim-we had no problems at BLD last week. Nice job.
April 22
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
1438 posts
Bruce, you know that I always value your input. If someone is clearly out of the box, I will definitely call it but have zero experience at BLD but have heard lots about their batter’s boxes. Honestly I have only had one in a tournament that really ever was clearly out of the box. It was at a B World Series. He ran up and was a couple of feet in front of it. He started arguing with me when I called it. I said No, I have zero idea that you are out of home runs and trying to drill the pitcher. He looked at me for a second and said Yes, ma’am and walked back to the dugout. Thankfully no one has ever said to me Our fans told you… I would have a hard time hiding my thoughts but would just ignore them.
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