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| Feb. 18, 2022 Harryroe 11 posts | Base runners hit by batted ball What happens when a base runner is hit by a batted ball. 1.) off the bag behind the defensive player, in front of the defensive player… on the bag. Is it automatically a dead ball… please explain. Is the baseball rule the same.? |
| Feb. 18, 2022 B.J. 1105 posts | Harryroe.. 1) off bag and behind live ball play on.. off bag and in front dead ball runner is out batter awarded 1b ... 2) dead ball batter awarded 1b and all runners advance that are forced to advance 3) don't know |
| Feb. 18, 2022 stick8 1991 posts | To your question: baseball rule: 1) runner is off bag and ball passes thru a fielder--play on (**but see below) 2) runner is on bag in front of defensive player: dead ball, runner is out, batter is awarded a single **Suppose a runner is on second, one out. Runner takes off for third on a hit and run play. Batter hits a grounder in the hole between short and third. Third baseman dives and can’t come up with it. The ball then hits the runner but the shortstop is behind the runner in the hole looking to make a play. Is the runner out? |
| Feb. 18, 2022 Harryroe 11 posts | Yes the runner is out as long as the second defensive player has a play in the ball .( Baseball) So my question is the rule the same for slow pitch softball? |
| Feb. 18, 2022 stick8 1991 posts | Good question. Every slow pitch rulebook I’ve ever read states if a batted ball passes thru a fielder and then hits the runner that runner is not out. Strictly going by that then the rule would be different in slow pitch. |
| Feb. 19, 2022 B.J. 1105 posts | stick .. when you describe passing thru a fielder I assume you mean they didn't touch the batted ball?? SSUSA covers most of the scenarios of a runner hit by a batted ball but I don't believe they cover a batted ball that passes by the nearest fielder (not being touched) then hitting the runner with another fielder playing deeper who had an opportunity to make an out .. below is the USA/ASA's rule that it's a dead ball and the runner is out.. usually when SSUSA doesn't cover it they refer back to USA/ASA Section 1. THE BATTER BECOMES A BATTER-RUNNER 5. after passing a fielder and another fielder has the opportunity to make an out. EFFECT: Dead ball, the runner is out. The batter-runner is awarded first base and runners advance one base if forced. Runners not forced to advance must return to the base reached prior to the interference |
| Feb. 20, 2022 stick8 1991 posts | BJ, we use the same rule in One Nation. And it could be a fielder not touching the ball (a grounder going thru the wickets for example) or touching the ball. It hasnt happened in a slow pitch game I’ve umpired but it has a couple times in high school baseball games I’ve umpired. Both times we ruled the runner out. In both games it’s a judgement call by the umpire. What seems puzzling to me is iin baseball the batter is awarded a single |
| Feb. 26, 2022 Harryroe 11 posts | Ok here’s the rule 1). Baseball: if the runner is in front on the fielder and is hit by the ball whether on the base or not the runner is out. ( when the fielder has a play 3rd baseman or shortstop.. if the second defensive has a play on the ball.) According to SSUSA rules: if the runner is in contact with the base and doesn’t interfere the runner hit with the ball the runner is not out. Am I correct? |
| Feb. 26, 2022 B.J. 1105 posts | Harry... YES .... here is the SSUSA rule... 1. If the runner is hit with a fair batted ball while touching a base, he is not out. EFFECT: The ball is live or dead depending on the position of the fielder closest to the ball. If the closest defensive player is in front of the base runner hit by the ball, the ball remains live. However, after the runner in contact with the base is hit by the batted ball, it shall be the same as hitting the ground. Since the ball remains live, the defense is free to make whatever plays are available. If the defensive player is behind the base runner, the ball is ruled dead, the hitter is awarded a base hit and runners are advanced only if forced to advance. |
| Feb. 28, 2022 stick8 1991 posts | The difference is in baseball the base is not considered a sanctuary to not be called out if a runner occupying said base is struck by a batted ball. |
