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Discussion: Foul or out

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Dec. 1, 2020
idahoreb
Men's 60
61 posts
Foul or out
Batter swings and hits ball off plate and goes in the air and on the follow through hits ball with bat again. Both feet are in box. What if one foot out of box but one still in box. What’s the call?
Dec. 1, 2020
DaveDowell
Men's 65
3167 posts
Lots of options ... Take your pick, depending on the facts of your situation! ...

Rulebook §1.28 • FOUL BALL
A foul ball is a legally batted ball that:
...
E. Touches the batter or the bat in the batter's hand(s) a second time while the batter is within the batter's box.
__________

Rulebook §1.33 • ILLEGALLY BATTED BALL
An illegally batted ball occurs when the batter hits the ball fair or foul and:
A. The entire foot is completely outside the lines of the batter's box and on the ground.
__________

Rulebook §7.6 • BATTER IS OUT
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C. When an entire foot is touching the ground completely outside the lines of the batter's box when he hits a ball fair or foul.

Dec. 7, 2020
Wayne 37
Men's 65
773 posts
FYI ~ Home plate is in fair territory. However, some mats don't have what is considered a regulation plate drawn on them. Is the whole mat considered home plate for a batted ball? I have played some games where the whole mat is considered the plate for making a play on a throw home as the mat is only one color.
Dec. 7, 2020
B.J.
791 posts
FYI.. in the rule book it will tell you that the whole strike mat is considered to be in fair territory..
Dec. 7, 2020
Wayne 37
Men's 65
773 posts
FYI ~ Diagrams of field dimensions don't show foul lines indicating as such. However, if the mat gets moved you can use the plate underneath the mat.

Anyway, the batter in the OP is out both times.

Dec. 7, 2020
B.J.
791 posts
Wayne... As I said it's in the rule book..read the last sentence

1.23 • FAIR TERRITORY
Fair territory is that part of the playing field within, and including, the first and third base foul lines from home plate to the bottom of the playing field fence and
perpendicularly upwards. (NOTE: Any batted ball first hitting any portion of the strike mat then settling in fair territory is a fair ball. Fair territory includes the strike mat.)
Dec. 9, 2020
Wayne 37
Men's 65
773 posts
A ball may hit in foul ground, come into fair territory without being touched in foul ground is a fair ball. EXCEPTION: A ball that hits first in foul territory past first or third base is a foul ball.
Dec. 10, 2020
gonz
47 posts
what happens if a player is in fair territory but ball is in foul ground.
example is a ball is hit down the line tailing to foul territory. defender dives for ball makes contact with ball and drops it while ball is out of fair territory but he is in the fair territory.
thanks
Gonzs
Hawaiians #35
Dec. 10, 2020
DaveDowell
Men's 65
3167 posts
gonz ... The call is based on where the ball is relative to the extended vertical plane of the foul line at first contact. On the facts you just defined ("..makes contact with ball and drops it while ball is out of fair territory.."), I have a foul ball as the call ...
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