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Discussion: out of rating number

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Nov. 20, 2020
titanhd
Men's 60
585 posts
out of rating number
We are a 60M team that has a rating of 6. We are looking to add 4 players that aged up to 60 but played 55M (7 rating) last season. Can we add all 4 or more Players and still play 60 Major?
Nov. 21, 2020
stick8
1803 posts
On the surface I could see this being a contentious issue. No matter what age bracket a team cannot declare what level they want to play at. The powers that be decide that. Damned if I know what is taken into consideration.
Nov. 21, 2020
Dbax
Men's 65
1905 posts
Titanhd, yes you can. If an entire 55 Major team all aged up to 60 they could play 60 Major.
Nov. 21, 2020
titanhd
Men's 60
585 posts

55M rating is not the same as 60M. Are you stating that 55M rating drop once you age up? So in essence you would have an entire team composed of players rated as 7 which appears to be out of rating for 60M (6).It has always been said that player rating follow a player for 2 years and a team could field with only 3 out of rating Players. Per your statement ratings drop once you age up.
Nov. 21, 2020
Dbax
Men's 65
1905 posts
I believe so.
Nov. 21, 2020
Dbax
Men's 65
1905 posts
Are you saying you would have to play 60 Major Plus?
Nov. 21, 2020
titanhd
Men's 60
585 posts

Ok I think I have my answer but, will confirm with SSUSA office.

This is what I found in a previous-similar posted question.

Per this posted SSUSA response an entire 55M team could not play 60M due to players being rated higher unless less than 6 players.

ug. 28, 2020
SSUSA Staff
3009 posts

If a team ages up, and regardless of their rating and how they got it, they keep the same rating from the younger level if there are six (6) or more players aging up with the team ... If five or less age up, the team's rating will be determined by the rating experience histories of the entire player group, including "new to the team" players on the successor roster ...

May play ONE R/I less than HIGHEST R/I as one of three
"out-of-rating" players allowed on that team's roster

A team retains its rating unless it falls below 4 players from the original team.
Nov. 22, 2020
DaveDowell
Men's 65
3084 posts
titanhd ... Here's the general rule on aging up: "You take your rating with you." So when you, as an individual, matriculate to 60's, your 55M experience history is now regarded as 60M. But here's where the issue/confusion lies: Let's say that those four guys from my 55M team (Dave's Dummies) are all age 60+ and they want to join your 60 team (The Titans). They may do so without any adverse effect so long as they don't continue to play 55-Major with me. Playing in your native age group of 60+ is fine, we don't look back, but if you're good enough to still play "younger" as a 55-Major with my team, SSUSA is going to maintain the higher experience rating history for you and those guys are going to factor into the "out-of-rating" player count (max. of three). If you want those guys from Dave's Dummies, go for it ... But be sure to tell them they have to be Titans ONLY and they can't play younger anymore if they want to be eligible, as a group, for you ... Good luck!

Nov. 22, 2020
titanhd
Men's 60
585 posts
OK Dave. Point blank question. Can an entire team that played 55M age up and play together as a 60 Major team?
Nov. 22, 2020
DaveDowell
Men's 65
3084 posts
YES ... It happens all the time ...
Nov. 22, 2020
Dbax
Men's 65
1905 posts
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