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Discussion: Best bat-ball combinations

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Jan. 7, 2019
The real deal
Men's 70
113 posts
Best bat-ball combinations
Question for any bat gurus in the know:

Our senior league has been using a 52/300 ball for safety reasons. Rumor has it that a "senior" bat is not the right bat to use with this ball (trampoline effect from senior bat hitting a mush ball is self-defeating). Perhaps an ASA bat would be better?

Jan. 7, 2019
vquinton21
Men's 55
8 posts
Yes there are bats made to hit those balls specifically
Jan. 7, 2019
The real deal
Men's 70
113 posts
Ok, I give - what bat works best with this ball?
Jan. 7, 2019
vquinton21
Men's 55
8 posts
Demarini Aftermath, Miken DC/Platinum/Patriot, Worth EST XXL (either Purple or Pink), Monsta
Jan. 7, 2019
mck71
Men's 60
342 posts
Trd - I would also add that you should TRY and get a bat as those just mentioned similar to what you swing as a senior (if you play tourneys), i.e. balanced vs end load, 1 piece vs 2 piece though MOST ASA bats are now 2 piece! There is a guy on YouTube that does ASA bat reviews, BPHero, has a top 5 but he does like end loads, might want to check him out. Hope this helps!
Jan. 7, 2019
Gorilla Boy
Men's 50
271 posts
I have always said that 44/375 and senior 1.21 bats are the best combinations for senior softball. Then you have special considerations. In one league the fence is 275 for senior softball. They use the ASA bats but not because of the balls. They wanted to use the ASA bats because of the size of the fence. They are using 44/400 balls now and are happy. If you are hitting 52/300 balls you might want to switch to ASA bats. Only way to really know is go out and hit them. Your place of residence can have a big effect on the whole set up..

How far is the fence and where is your league at? The area where you live has a lot to do with how the ball is going to play.. Only because I have been doing this a long time. It does matter your location. If you continue to use the 52/300 balls then I would try the ASA bats and see what happens. Hope this helps...

Mighty Mike Macenko
aka: Gorilla Boy...
Jan. 7, 2019
Dugout
18 posts
My suggestion is as bat made for that low compression ..I hit a worth westra 28 oz it seems to do I good job . 300 to 360 feet...its purple with lime green handle. Half oz end load .
Jan. 7, 2019
ju25
Men's 60
234 posts
I have hit the 52/300 balls with bats from all associations and my senior bats still hit them the best. The difference is not as much as it used to be but there is still a difference. For me senior bats are about 10'-20' further than USSSA and 15'-25' ASA. My Border Battle Helmer, Freakzilla, Border Battle Legit, and Flipper USA all hang with my USSSA bats when hitting 52/300 balls. Good thing about hitting 52/300 balls with senior bats is the bats will last a lot longer, but if you hit newer ASA bats with 44/375 balls your bat will not last very long.
Jan. 7, 2019
Gavin5
Men's 70
30 posts
IMO--The best senior bats will out hit the best ASA bats whatever the ball.
The key is finding the best senior bat for your swing.
Jan. 8, 2019
Gorilla Boy
Men's 50
271 posts
Yes any bat Senior or ASA will hit the 52/300's. They will hit any ball. ju25 you are right on with the breakage. For sure Senior bats will break with any ball but they will last the longest hitting 52/300 balls.

Mighty Mike Macenko
aka: Gorilla Boy
Jan. 8, 2019
The real deal
Men's 70
113 posts
Thanks for the input, guys. Sounds like the jury is still out on whether ASA or senior bats work better with this ball - more of a personal choice thing. I wonder if any bat companies have done any "studies" of bat / ball combinations under controlled conditions (mechanical bat swinging devices).

Gorilla Boy: I agree with you on where you live affects bat / ball performance. Our winter league (SF Bay Area) gets rainy, cold weather this time of year, and our fields don't have fences - you've got to leg out a homer...
Jan. 8, 2019
mad dog
Men's 65
4189 posts
we use the 52/300 ball for our leagues both senior and open.....in our senior league most all hit with a senior bat and have no problem...hr guys hit hr and single guys hit singles..i'm a tweener and have hit balls out along with getting my gappers......in the mens open they allow any bat but senior bats and the makes and models are all kinds...no one in particular....just use the bat you feel most comfortable with and have fun....also try not to gorilla swing at the ball......
Jan. 27, 2019
AJC 7
Men's 65
2 posts
I find demarini flippers or monsta bats hit the 52\300 balls the best for ASA.
Jan. 28, 2019
ETDave
31 posts
I play in the same senior league with mad dog. We've used the 52/300 balls for years. I love them.

I'm like him, a "tweener" that hits an occasional home run honestly by mistake. I try to line drive the ball and occasionally get under one that goes out.

I've hit more out with my old Easton Extended than anything, but that's because I use it so much.

I bought an Demarini Flipper thinking it would outhit my senior bats with this ball, but it doesn't.

I'm lucky in that I have a large yard that I can hit balls off a tee in. My senior bats are a good 15-20 feet farther off the tee than the Flipper. My Extended is about middle ways between those two.
Jan. 29, 2019
Vortech347
2 posts
We play ASA in league around here so I have 2 ASA bats and 2 different models of Senior bats. We take a lot of BP between a few of us on our senior team so I can tell you without a doubt that a senior bat will outhit ANY ASA or USSSA bat no matter which ball you use.

Put it this way. We often hit off a tee about 20ft behind home plate so the fence is right at 320' on our field. We usually use 44/375 senior balls for BP so there is that. But we have a few 52/300's mixed in, as well.

I can routinely hit balls off the tee to the fence or over with my senior bat. I rarely get one out with either of my ASA bats and they are front line bats (Legit border battle and Freakzilla).

When we take pitched BP I will warm up with my ASA and then switch to a senior bat. The distance difference is easily 50' or more.

I am a line drive hitter with pretty good power. I am no 400' monster home run hitter but can get one 350-375 on occasion.

Long story short, if you can swing a senior bat in your league it will easily outperform ASA or USSSA bats with 52/300's and will last a good long time. You don't get a warranty but you don't pay $300 for a front line bat either.
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