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| Sept. 14 txnighttrain 120 posts | I was looking over the brackets in the 60 AAA. If you are a low seed in one of the two pods, such as #16, if you win, then you have to play the #1. Now, if you lose to the #1 seed and drop down to the loser bracket and lose, you are out on Friday. However, if you lose that first game and then drop to the loser bracket, you only have one more game and no matter how you do, you will get at least one game on Saturday. Your team will be less tired from playing less games and might even win two or three the next day on Saturday. Unless my team suddenly plays way over their heads, we don't have a chance to win the 60 AAA. We have a chance to win a few, but I will be missing some players on Thursday due to work obligations, so pool play will be a challenge. I know bracketing is tough and wouldn't want to do it, but here is a case where the loser is rewarded. |
| Sept. 14 tc4whlr 34 posts | somethings are better left un-said :) |
| Sept. 14 TimMcElroy 983 posts | As a 16 seed, losing your 1st or 2nd game of the bracket still requires that you roll off a dozen or so wins in the loser's bracket. I don't see how losing early (in any bracket)- let alone a 43 team bracket is beneficial. |
| Sept. 14 17Black Men's 60 417 posts | You are going to VEGAS, its the Worlds, play to win!!! You are already talking yourself out of the tournament regardless of which players are coming????? |
| Sept. 14 17Black Men's 60 417 posts | Seeding games are over-rated although earning a #1 usually helps with games times and etc. If several teams win their pool games but one team gave up less runs because they played on the field the wind is blowing in on, are they "really" the #1 seed. I also cant tell you (because there are LOTS) of teams didn't win any seeding games at all (winless) and then marched through the tournament in double elimination and won the whole thing Just go play ball |
| Sept. 14 DaveDowell Men's 70 4432 posts | Don't overthink this one TX ... A couple of observations ... • A two-game pool play seeding is unreliable at best, just barely better than a blind draw ... Certainly not as reliable as an 82-game NBA or 16-game NFL schedule to determine the stronger teams ... Concluding that the best teams will have the top seeds is a risky presumption ... (17Black nailed that concept) • Teams that chart their path to the Championship through the Elimination bracket have a tendency to create a self-fulfilling prophesy for an early departure ... A "winning 'em one at a time" attitude is the best approach, rather than trying to fathom when's the best time to lose ... • There are only two things you have to do to become a World Champion, one of which you can control ... [1] Play to your team's potential for an extended number of games (lesser number in the Championship bracket!) and [2] Catch that "lucky break", like a favorable bounce (think SF Giants dribbler that hit 3B in the World Series and trickled into short LF for a double in a clutch situation!) or maybe a close/bad call that went your way ... • As Tim perfectly stated in a previous thread: "..As a 1 seed or [43] seed, you have to beat everyone there. It's just a matter of sequence.." Good luck! ... |
| Sept. 14 softball4b Men's 70 1260 posts | One guy a lot smarter than me (probably there are a lot more than one, just ask my wife, what does that say about her life choices, I digress). For a decent team, In order to win any tournament, you have to win at least two games ugly and then win all of the games you were suppose to. His contention was that when you look back at those 2 there was no way you should have won them, but you did, drop ball, bad throw, guy who has never hit a bowling average hits 800, the guy who is an average 2nd baseman plays the entire tournament and never, never gets a ball hit to him (for real, 2008 55 Majors) and the horses run the way they are supposed to. So losing is not a good option, but if you feel compelled, please call DD and asked to play our team in Worlds, we will take all the help we can get. Mike Adair This views or comments of this poster is not approved by the management of OTE and or my wife. |
| Sept. 14 The Screamer5 Men's 60 69 posts | To add to what's already been said, teams take different approaches to how they play pool/seed games. Some always play them to win; others use the pool games as practice to prepare for the brackets; some others may bat everyone or play some guys who normally don't play while resting their regulars. You never know what type of team (talent wise) you'll get when the seeds come out. Senior tournaments are difficult enough to win already, especially out of the loser's bracket... so in the brackets ALWAYS play to win! Your chances are always better the longer you stay in the winner's bracket. Looking ahead to see who you might play later in the bracket isn't always a good strategy either. Take it one game at a time. Good luck at Worlds...! |
