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| Sept. 21, 2017 Tommy00 13 posts | Player who had a CR now becomes a CR Last night we had a batter (Player A) get a base hit, get to first and call for a runner (Player B). 2 batters later, another guy (Player C) got on and Player A ran for him. Is there any rule against this? If not, I think there should be. |
| Sept. 21, 2017 SSUSA Staff 3482 posts | In SSUSA sanctioned play, Player "A" should have been called out the moment he entered the game as a CR for Player "C" ... This is covered in Rulebook §8.5(2) on page 50 ... __________ §8.5(2) • USING A RUNNER ON BASE A runner who is replaced with a courtesy runner may not be used as a courtesy runner for the remainder of the inning. |
| Sept. 21, 2017 B.J. 1105 posts | Tommy00...Dave is correct... but if this is a local league game make sure they dont have any hybrid rules on C/R's I have seen many leagues adapt there own version |
| Sept. 21, 2017 HAT MAN Men's 50 229 posts | to clarify what constitutes " the moment he entered the game as a CR"? I am of the interpretation that it is when the CR touches the bag AND PLAY RESUMES. Ex "hey blue runner" as the CR gets close to bag "hey hey you cant run dont touch the bag" real life scenario time was called for both umps to talk. During the time out we got a CR for man on first. CR stepped on bag the hitter/runner stepped off. The other team yelled hey blue he's out he was a CR this inning. Our guys immediately switch back to original runner on 1st. Time had not resumed yet. Other team coach discusses it with umpires and our CR is called out. I ask to speak with home plate umpire. Umpire states because he was on the base and we saw it, he is out. I ask if our runner was also out at 3rd for getting a drink of water. He says no time was called. I then say exactly if actions of any runner during the time out mattered both would be out. Since you all had time and did not resume play or acknowledge the CR at first, it would be the same as the first base coach kicking the bag, straightening it out etc. While time was held. Umpire discusses with field ump and overturn call. Advised the other team that they should have stayed quiet until play resumed then appealed. YEA US!!! |
| Sept. 21, 2017 SSUSA Staff 3482 posts | This is all pretty straight forward ... Rulebook §8.5(5), also at page 50, states in part "..A courtesy runner is in the game when he touches the base.." ... All the other hypothetical factual "clutter" is irrelevant ... |
| Sept. 21, 2017 HAT MAN Men's 50 229 posts | so clear the ump got it wrong in our favor LOL |
| Sept. 21, 2017 B.J. 1105 posts | Tommy00... PLAY RESUMING has nothing to do with it... a CR enters the game when he "TOUCHES THE BAG" ... a CR may not be requested until after "TIME OUT" is called... the defense should not have to appeal the illegal CR... as soon as the CR touches the bag the umpire should call him out..if the umpire doesn't realize that he is illegal then the defense can appeal "BEFORE" or "AFTER" play resumes and up until he scores and before a pitch to the next batter has been delivered |
| Sept. 22, 2017 stick8 1991 posts | Once the courtesy runner touches the bag he is in the game. If said runner already ran for someone in the same inning or had someone run for him in the same inning he is automatically out. You also lose a runner on that base. |
