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Discussion: Quick Bat Question

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July 10, 2017
ETDave
31 posts
Quick Bat Question
Is my 2005 original Easton Extended ok for SSUSA play? Rules say all Easton bats stamped 1.21 or lower. It only has ASA stamp used at that time.

Thanks.
July 10, 2017
B94
Men's 50
138 posts
Yes the bat is good...
July 10, 2017
ETDave
31 posts
I was about 99% sure, but thanks for confirming.
July 10, 2017
Katzy63
Men's 60
24 posts
How can a bat that's been banned by ASA for nearly two years, and certification stripped at Easton's urging be legal to use?
IMO if the bat has the current stamps allowed for any association, not on an associations ban list, and it falls in line with less than 1.21bpf then it's all good.
July 11, 2017
ETDave
31 posts
The key thing you said is banned by ASA. It is not as hot as a senior bat...it's just that I've used it since I bought it in 2005 and feel very comfortable with it. I have senior bats that are definitely hotter.
July 11, 2017
B94
Men's 50
138 posts
You are partially right Katzy it is less than 1.21bpf so it's good to go.

This bat definitely exceeded the ASA limits but imo isn't as hot as a good senior bat. It's simply about comfort for the OP...
July 12, 2017
marcster13
102 posts
SSUSA Approved Bats
Beginning on Jan. 1, 2014, Senior Softball-USA licenses new senior bats and publishes an Approved Bat List for all sanctioned SSUSA Tournaments.

The following bats have been approved for Senior Softball-USA use:

Updated May 17, 2017

Adidas:

All Adidas slow-pitch bats stamped 1.21 BPF or lower are approved.

Combat:

All Combat slow-pitch bats stamped 1.21 BPF or lower are approved.

DeMarini:

All DeMarini slow-pitch bats stamped 1.21 BPF or lower are approved.

Dudley:

All Dudley slow-pitch bats stamped 1.21 BPF or lower are approved.

Easton:

All Easton slow-pitch bats stamped 1.21 BPF or lower are approved.

Louisville Slugger:

All Louisville Slugger slow-pitch bats stamped 1.21 BPF or lower are approved.

Miken Sports:

All Miken slow-pitch softball bats stamped 1.21 BPF or lower are approved, excluding the Original Gray Miken Ultra.

Mizuno:

All Mizuno slow-pitch bats stamped 1.21 BPF or lower are approved.

Reebok:

All Reebok slow-pitch bats stamped 1.21 BPF or lower are approved.

Worth:

All Worth slow-pitch softball bats stamped 1.21 BPF or lower are approved
July 12, 2017
Katzy63
Men's 60
24 posts
The keywords were, "certification stripped at Easton's urging."
One thing that eludes people is that even though the bat has multiple certification marks, the only certification that was done was on ASA's end of the table. Since the other associations allowed 1.20bpf as a maximum at the time, there was no need for them to test a bat that's already been tested with a maximum well below the mark they're looking at since they were all using the same testing principles and actions to determine bpf.
Since the maker of the bat asked that the certification be stripped, and it was granted, IMO a 13-yr old bat obviously exceeds the requirements of today's standards since the ball has changed as well.
I get that the OP feels more comfortable with it, and that's his choice. But to play Devil's Advocate, the stamps on that particular bat have been out of circulation for quite some time now, thus making the bat illegal for use in sanctioned play by those associations. So, how again do we allow bats illegal for use in ASA, USSSA or any other association into ours? If it has current legal stamps I have no problem with it, but where do we draw the line on equipment that has been found to exceed limits after a period of time and retired by that association?
July 13, 2017
B.J.
1105 posts
Katzy... I don't understand your reasoning... you say that 13 yrs. ago that when the bat was tested it was WELL BELOW the 1.20bpf... well the standard now is even higher 1.21bpf so why do you consider it illegal?
July 13, 2017
ETDave
31 posts
Did a little more looking and found this.


3.4(3) • APPROVED BATS
All bats marked "1.21 BPF" (Bat Performance Factor) or less, SSUSA approved bats, or bats having an ASA 2000 or 2004 stamp are approved for
use. Any bat displaying the label "Exceeds 1.21 BPF" is not approved.
July 31, 2017
the answer
Men's 60
115 posts
they only uncertified these bats to make money on new bats...most asa only bats are hotter but these bats are so durable people use them for years and dont but newer bats
July 31, 2017
the answer
Men's 60
115 posts
buy
July 31, 2017
neck10
714 posts
ASA didn't bann that bat(Easton Extended) easton did so they could sell more bats.
July 31, 2017
neck10
714 posts
sorry didn't see u already said that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 31, 2017
Fabe
Men's 65
456 posts
I was very sad when this happened! I was always an Easton swinger...those OG bats fit my swing well! Yep the Almighty Dollar rules again! Aloha, Fabe
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