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Discussion: substitution

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Nov. 30, 2016
froggy11
Men's 75
6 posts
substitution
Tournament game, tie game, extra inning, visiting team starts extra inning with the player that made the last out in the previous inning at second base. Courtesy runner is NOT allowed for the runner at second, understood. Umpire did not allow player substitution for the runner at second base. Umpire ruled substitution could not be made until runner advanced to third base. Mentioned to the umpire it was not a courtesy runner but a substitution. Umpire was not listening to my argument. Was this an error by the umpire?
Nov. 30, 2016
k man
Men's 65
326 posts
Froggy- Rule 5.4(2) Page 28 - No substitute or curtesy runner may replace him until he has reached 3rd base.
Nov. 30, 2016
SSUSA Staff
3489 posts
The umpire (and k man) nailed it ... There is one limited exception, but it comes with a price: If "that guy" can't or won't run, he is declared out and next previous last batter of the prior inning assumes the 2nd base spot ...
Nov. 30, 2016
froggy11
Men's 75
6 posts
Thanks for the response, I see that now, page 28.
Nov. 30, 2016
bond_171513
Men's 55
79 posts
Just curious about the wording on the original question..there is a difference between last out and last batter. It is the last "batter" - not the last "out" - correct? FYI - this came up in Phoenix and the FD and umpire both said last batter when the last "out" was the runner thrown out trying to advance on the last "batter's" hit.
Nov. 30, 2016
Duke
Men's 65
908 posts
bond_171513, Last batter that completed his turn at bat, not the last out.

Andy Smith,
65 Major
Dec. 1, 2016
froggy11
Men's 75
6 posts
YOU ARE CORRECT ANDY, THAT IS EXACTLY HOW THE RULE READS.
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