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Discussion: BATTERS BOX

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Nov. 14, 2016
1jonsey
48 posts
BATTERS BOX
After hitting the ball, when is a runner considered to be out of the box? 1 foot completely out or both feet completely out?
Nov. 14, 2016
HAT MAN
Men's 50
229 posts
your question needs re wording I think. After hitting or making contact it doesnt matter. When making contact both feet must be in. As a player and umpire the call is often not the same.

a reg box is 6 inches off the plate and 36 inches wide.As long as your toes are touching the line your in the box. The challenge is what does an umpire do when the box isnt correct. Some enforce the rule anyway. Some look the other way when you erase it. Some draw a box when no lines are there. All judgment calls.

As a batter I am far off the plate, when no lines I lay my bat down about 6" from the plate and use the end o bat as my marker. Unfortunately for me I often get called to move in. I chose this stance so I just adjust to the ump. BLD boxes in vegas are painted and not to regulation so what do you do?

Short answer is the rule says both feet must be touching the line of the batters box. So one in and one out he is out of the box.
Nov. 14, 2016
SSUSA Staff
3485 posts
"..After hitting the ball..", we would presume he is out of the box when he has completely vacated the confines of the batter's box on his way down to first base, but we don't see any rules issue with that ... However, if you were asking for the definition of what constitutes being out of the box at the moment you hit a ball, that's in Rule Book §7.3:
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7.3 • BATTING POSITION
A. The batter must have at least some portion of both feet on or inside the lines of the batter's box at the start of the pitch. A batter who steps out of the batter’s box at any time during the pitch and then hits the ball, fair or foul, shall be called out. Steps out means touching the ground completely outside of the lines of the batter’s box. (See §1.5)

Nov. 14, 2016
paul0784
Men's 60
218 posts
It was happening whole tournament in Florida and not being called and I mean flagrant occasions. When asked I was told didn't want to open can of worms. Wow!
Nov. 14, 2016
1jonsey
48 posts
The batter is in the box but he tops the ball out in front of home plate and as he is exiting it spins back and it hits him in the foot. When the ball made contact with him he had 1 foot completely out of the box and 1 foot still in the box. I know he would be called out if both feet were out of the box. What's the call?
Nov. 14, 2016
Garocket
Men's 55
259 posts
If any part of his body (usually the foot)touches the ball while the foot and ball is outside the batters box and over fair territory he would be called out. If the ball and batter is still in the batters box it would be a dead ball>foul ball call.
Nov. 14, 2016
taits
Men's 65
4548 posts
Not having a current book and too lazy to read the inhere, i's guess? he is out from the hit ball. Had he hit some base runner he is out so with that in mind I's say he is out as well. Dave will correct me if wrong.
New books are due at some point for 2017\18.
Nov. 14, 2016
1jonsey
48 posts
Garocket, so are you saying that if he has 1 foot out of the box and 1 foot still in the box and he is in fair territory when the ball hit his foot he would be called out?
Nov. 14, 2016
k man
Men's 65
326 posts
We had a situation in FL where the batter hit a very slow roller toward the pitchers mound, bases were loaded and on the release of the bat it also rolled about 25 feet toward the pitcher making contact with the ball. Originally the umpire made the call that the lead runner was out and all runners including the batter was safe. After our manager asked them to get a rules interpretation, they finally came to the conclusion that the batter was out and all runners returned to their original base. And yes, the game clock was stopped while I think TD help to interpret the situation.
Nov. 15, 2016
Garocket
Men's 55
259 posts
If t he foot that touches the ball and the ball and foot is outside the batters box he would be called out. The other foot has no bearing. NOW remember the foot and the ball both have to be in fair territory out side of the batters box.
Nov. 15, 2016
Garocket
Men's 55
259 posts

Just found this on a baseball site, would assume it would be the same in softball.

See 8.4.1B -- if either foot is entirely out of the batter's box, then the batter is out if hit by a fair batted ball
Nov. 15, 2016
HAT MAN
Men's 50
229 posts
Does anyone know how many major guys can be on a AAA team and stay AAA? Same for major..how many major+ can be on a major team and stay major? How many manjor +can be on a AAA team and stay AAA?
Nov. 15, 2016
B94
Men's 50
138 posts
HM pretty sure the magic number is 3...
Nov. 15, 2016
taits
Men's 65
4548 posts
Correct..... BUT..... if any one or more player(s) has player M+ in last 2-3 years, it changes things. Even if not, it could change your team depending on the "point" count they use for players & or teams.
Contact George at home office and he will let you know player info in due time. Better safe than sorry later.
Nov. 16, 2016
HAT MAN
Men's 50
229 posts
Taits
Thanks, it was more for knoledge than action. Trying to build the AZ teams up and some guys were asking me the rules and I didnt know. Didnt want to guess at it as they are a new SSUSA team and looking for players.
Nov. 16, 2016
taits
Men's 65
4548 posts
Your welcome.
Should be in the rule book on here. Maybe too in searches. I know I posted some a few years ago on this subject. Team I was on wanted a few players and I actually inquired about them. A couple played 2 levels up and blew the non move up issue. I didn't go to event due to that, they were smeared.
Always ask HQ they are there to help as well.
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