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Aug. 18, 2018
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Umpire Etiquette

WOW
June 27, 2018
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Tournament Prizes

JT you have no idea what the cost of running tournaments are. I agree that the prizes should be a little better but to think they made $30,000.00 dollars is ludicrous. When you have directors that fly in WHO pays that airfare? Who pays for the rental cars? Who pays them for sitting at that table in 100 degree heat for 9-10 hours a day? Who pays for the diamond dry if it rains? Did they only make $1000.00 I doubt it. Would hope they made quite a few thousand. They will need it to pay for office rent at the national office. They have 8-9 employees WHO pays them. Who pays for the trips that the National office has to take to meet with these cities to talk them into hosting the tournaments. Who pays for all the shipping for the supplies that they need to run the tournaments. The balls and other paper work. When the tournament is not close they have to ship all the awards and stuff.
JT before you get all huffy make sure you know all the details.

What about the small 18-20 team tournament that they fly a director in and pay his rooms for 2-4 days.
YOU ask why 2-4 days? Well he has to get there the day before and sometime does not leave until the day after conclusion. They have to ship him the softballs and all awards. Just like any business the good days have to help pay for the bad days. SAME IN TOURNAMENTS>
May 31, 2018
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Tournament Prizes

Man this is a funny topic.
What happened to the days when the tournament director called and said your team plays at 8:00am Saturday at City Park. End of phone call.'
You showed up and played whatever team that was in the other dugout. I know someone is going to say but the entry fees are $500. Well I can say 500 is a lot easier than $150 was in those days to come up with and the tournament was a straight double elimination 2 and done was something you had to live with.
May 25, 2018
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Is the infield fly rule based on physical ability to catch the ball?

If you are going to judge the defensive players you will also have to judge the baserunners.
If the base runners are slow and cannot run very fast and the ball has a backspin on it and comes back to the catcher and he picks it up and throws to 3rd then to second for a double play. If that was to happen than the umpire has not protected the runners and that is his job. If I am on 1st base and a runner is on second and the ball is popped up to the infield you can bet I am staying on the base. and as slow as I am I am sure I would be doubled off at second.

If the ball is popped up to the infield the best bet is the umpire should call batter out and all runners can advance at their own risk.
May 21, 2018
Garocket
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Loudon

There is no way to make everyone happy I understand the aggrevation. But We had a tournament scheduled this weekend. Not a softball but a baseball. Which is affected more by rain than softball.
Weather predictions Friday 80% rain Saturday 80% rain Sunday 50% rain \prediction up to 3 inches ,all teams were calling and asking to call tournament off.

Friday no rain played Friday games, Saturday a little mist around 10am never stopped playing. Sunday sunny until 3:oo pm then had the 2 inches of rain that was predicted.
This just an example why Tournament directors can not go strickly by the weather prediction.
Had he cancelled and the weather had been good can you imagine how many people would be on the message board critizing. The tournament director is in a no win situation.
Jan. 18, 2018
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Drum Roll thread closed ?

I was playing and directing tournaments for the young guys back when USSSA went to the 1-1 count. All players said this would ruin softball. Some associations went on a marketing campaign that said play ( Blank ) we still use the 4 balls and 3 strike count. Well after a few months the players figured out that the 1-1 count was a much better game. Seemed to move a little faster and became a much more of a hitters game.
Other associations then moved to the 1-1 count because that is what the players wanted.
I was one of the hold overs that ran tournament and used the 0-0 count and teams and players started telling me how dumb I was for using the 0-0 count. They said they much preferred the 1-1 they said it put the pitcher back in the game. This was back before time limits were used. But they all wanted the 1-1 because as they put it the 1-1 is a much better game.
I can honestly say that as a player and person that still runs a few tournaments that I prefer the 1-1.

My question is if baseball was never invented and someone came up with a game that someone pitches you the ball under handed with a slow arch do you think the inventor would say LETS SEE HOW MANY PITCHES SHOULD HE HAVE 7? Everybody would more than likely say 3 only 3.

Just a little humor but I think you see what I mean.
Jan. 4, 2018
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: 1-1 or 0-0 Count

Sorry that's 80 % of the pool games get 7 innings.
Jan. 4, 2018
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: 1-1 or 0-0 Count

I think titanhd has a good idea. play a few of the early tournaments with all pool games 1-1 and bracket games with 0-0. If 80% of the bracket games gets a full 7 innings and only 20 percent of the bracket games get 7 innings then you will know that the 1-1 does give the teams an extra inning or 2.
Just common sense.
Dec. 18, 2017
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Defense

Defense will never win you a game. Offense always wins BUT defense can keep you from losing. Never heard of anyone winning 0-0
Nov. 6, 2017
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Interference call on double play

EFFECT Sec. 5. B. If the interference is not ruled intentional; the batter-runner is entitled to
go to first base. If, in the opinion of the umpire, the interference is an obvious attempt to prevent
a double play, the immediate succeeding runner shall also be called out. When a base
runner interferes after he is out or after scoring, the most advanced runner shall be declared out.


This is the USSSA rule and ASA is the same but a little different wording

Note at the end it says interference by a runner THAT has already been put out the most advanced runner which means the one closes to home shall be declared out
Nov. 6, 2017
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Interference call on double play

Not sure about Senior Softball but in all other associations if interference is by a runner that has already been put out, ( which in your case that is the scenario) then the runner closes to home would also be called Out.

Might want to look this up in the senior rule book but in all other associations that is the rule.


With one out then you could call the runner at 1st out on the double lay and the runner at third would not score because of the 3rd out was a force play.
Aug. 8, 2017
Garocket
Topic: Website comments
Discussion: MONEY

The entry fees are high, but think what it takes to do 1 of these tournaments. The pre-tournament hours talking to teams and cities to make sure you will have fields and accomodations for teams and tournament staff. Flying in staff to run the tournaments having to pay for rental cars and then paying the TD's per day to run the tournaments, after paying this plus the balls and awards I could see them losing money on some of the smaller events. But in business you have to take the bad days to be rewarded with the good days.

The national office has 4-7 full time employees and I assume they do not work for free( lol).
The people that grip about a company making money has never run a business and know that sometimes you worry about making payroll.
Aug. 8, 2017
Garocket
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: ISA Nationals

Some of the best games I have been involved in in years,
Great umpires prizes way above the average and friendly staff all weekend.
Hope to go again next year.
June 26, 2017
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What is the correct call?

If the runner on third tagged up and crossed home plate before the first baseman caught the throw from the outfield then the run would count. That is a timing play the runner crossed home before the third out which was not a force play. A force out is when a runner must go to the next base because the batter has became a batter-runner. Since the batter never became a batter runner because he was out on the fly ball, the runner at 1st was not forced to leave the bag. Therefore the play back at first was not a force out.
June 15, 2017
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Overthrow on tag up

B.J. the retouch is not considered a base. If the runner already had 1st as a legal base. He would be placed on third.
Seems like everybody makes it much to difficult. Usssa is different than all others USSSA is the base you are going too plus 1 in your scenario where he is going back to retouch that would be the base he is going to plus 1.
ASA and all others it is 2 bases from the release of the ball.
April 10, 2017
Garocket
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Tournament seeding

So ftroop you are saying if you are if your team draws two weak teams and I draw two strong teams then you should still get the advantage of being home if I play your team. THat does not even sound fair
April 10, 2017
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Hot box

I have been to many umpire schools and was always told that Home is the only base that you cannot return to. All others you can. but if you go back to first and standing on first with the runner that just hit the ball the defense can either throw it to second or touch you even if you are on the base and you are out.
March 18, 2017
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Two bases from release of throw or one base from the base last touched

The ASA and ISA and NSA rule is the easiest to follow any throw that goes into dead ball area
( All runners are awarded 2 bases from where they are at the time the ball is released). Remember you do not have a base made until you have touched it
Scenerio: Batter hits the ball to the right fielder slow batter but runner on 1st is a rabbit, the runner on 1st has passed 2nd as the right fielder tries to throw the runner out at 1st and the throw goes over the 1st baseman's head into dead ball area, The runner that had passed 2nd base would get home and the batter-runner would get 2nd.
Easiest rule to enforce.
March 18, 2017
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What is the only situation where, after the play is over that a "do over" or "mulligan" can be implemented? (at least that I'm aware of)

You are correct BJ in Senior Softball I looked it up and it says only catcher can wear a mitt. Not sure about the penalty. The old ASA was the Offense had the option of taking the play or the batter getting to bat again.
March 18, 2017
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What is the only situation where, after the play is over that a "do over" or "mulligan" can be implemented? (at least that I'm aware of)

Not sure about seniors but in ASA and ISA and fielder can use a glove or mitt. Changed about 5-6 years ago
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