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July 31, 2022
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Player awarded a base

Crusher when you say tthat once the ball is out of play the runner cannot tag up, the ball is dead, I dont believe thatís accurate. I think you meant that when the umpire calls time and kills the play a runner cannot go back and tag up.

Example: Player A hits a gapper and he legs out a triple but he misses second base. The throw comes in to second, player B secures it and the ump calls time. Here you cannot go back and touch second.
Same play but if player B tries to throw you out at third and the throw goes out of play the ump will award you home. Here it is legal to retouch second.
BJ and/or Donna can correct me if Iím mistaken.

July 31, 2022
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Whatís your call

Answers:
1) Yes, the runner had legally scored before the ball struck the individuals foot
2) From my vantage point the individual that was struck was standing in the entrance to the dugout.
3) Canít really say he was on the field. But your second sentence is correct.

Youíre also correct that this was not senior softball. Although I umpired u-trip for a lot of years I currently umpire for One Nation. Rules for this situation are pretty much the same across the board for young manís ball.

For senior ball I defer to BJ or Donna.

July 30, 2022
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Whatís your call

This happened in a game I was umpiring a couple weeks ago. Young man ball.
Bottom of the 7th, 2 outs, runners on first and second, tie score. Left handed batter is up, defense is playing 5 infielders and 3 outfielders.
Batter gets a base hit into the left center gap. Runner at second scores easily. Game over or is it?
Center fielder runs over, fields the ball and throws it toward the third base dugout as the home team was running out to celebrate a walk-off. The throw hits a player in tne foot as heís standing in the entrance to their dugout. The other teams proceeds to start vociferously arguing obstruction, blocked ball, lead runner should be out.
What would be your call?
July 26, 2022
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Player awarded a base

Crusher I had a play just last week like what was described. Runner on first, no outs. Batter hits a line drive at the pitcher who made a nice catch. Runner was caught off base and was a dead duck. Pitchers throw to first was wild and went under a fenceóout of play. Dead ball, runner gets third. That runner did go back and touch first and then went to second and to third. Totally legal.
July 23, 2022
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Player awarded a base

Donna is correct. The easy way to think of this is:
1) a throw from the outfield that goes out of play-runners get two bases from the time of the throw
2) a throw from the infield that goes out of play-runners get two bases from the time of the pitch.
In this scenario the runner that was on first is awarded third. But in this case he must retouch first or else heís out if the defense appeals.
July 15, 2022
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: time limit rule for league play

Since your approximate starting game times are 90 minutes apart the easiest way to go is play 6 innings and the 7th being the open inning. Youíll find most games will get done in that time frame but a few might run longer and a few may end early. Thatís softball!
July 15, 2022
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Foul Tip

BJ is correct about the SSUSA rule on this. ISSA and SPA Iím not sure about. Whatever association tournament youíre team is playing in its always good to refer to that particular association rulebook on this and other situations before you play.
BJ can correct me if Iím wrong but as I understand it any rule that is not covered by SSUSA, ISSA or SPA rulebooks is referred to the USA (formerly ASA) rulebook.
As an aside, I umpire young man ball for One Nation. Any foul tip below the batters shoulder caught by the catcher is an out no matter how many strikes are on the batter.
June 30, 2022
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Great call by a manager!!!

In my situation he most certainly could have Danaj18. I suspect he was intentionally walked to avoid the batting team discovering he was batting out of order while he was at bat. If they did then they could put in the correct batter who wouldíve assumed the count.

June 23, 2022
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Great call by a manager!!!

For those who feel coaches or managers are only rah-rah guys, only make line ups and donít really coach or manage one bit should have witnessed what took place in a game I umpired the other night.
Home team is batting, itís bottom of the 7th inning, bases loaded, two outs, theyíre down one run. A strong home run hitter is upóthey have home runs left. First pitch is a ball. Visiting team manager calls time and comes out to the mound and talks to the pitcher. Pitcher then announces he wants to walk the batter. Huh? Is he serious? He just walked in the tieing run! What the heck is he thinking? Is he high, drunk?
Next batter gets in the box. Before the first pitch the pitcher appeals the runner on first batted out of order. After checking the scorebooks it was confirmed, the runner on first batted out of order. I have an out, run does not scoreóball game!!
That manager was heads up enough that he saw that and put guy on base before it was too late.
What a great call!
June 23, 2022
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: time limit rule for league play

I believe the rule as you posted is a bit confusing. In my view its a.certain time limitóin this case 75 minutesóthen the open inning. When time expires you finish that inning and then the open inning. If time expires between innings then itís open inning. Thatís all that needs to be stated,
The key in this might be where you mention early or late games. Does early mean the first game scheduled and late mean the last game scheduled? If true and perhaps Iím reading you wrong, it sounds like there are different time limits for the early or late games! Thatís a new one on me. Never heard of that one.
To answer your questions: (going by 75 min time limit then open inning)
1) Based on the rule you posted it sounds to me that the umpire made an incorrect decision. Did he think it was 65 minutes then the open inning?
2) Protestable? Depends how your league handles something like that. That team does have a legitimate beef, the ump didnít give them their allotted time!!
3) Rule rewritten? It sounds like it should be. Perhaps managers can meet with the league director and come up with something clarifying this so it would clear up any confusion and be easy to understand.
Good luck!!
April 28, 2022
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You make the call

Runner on 1st, 1 out. Batter hits a short fly ball to right field. Runner at first tagged up and bluffs going to second after the catch. As the runner is jogging back to first the right fielder throws to first behind the runner. The throw goes out of play before he got back to first. Whatís the call?
April 4, 2022
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Playing with Eleven

As one whoís played quite a bit of middle for the last 25+ years much of the success of the 5 man infield can rest with the pitcher. Thereís a ton that goes into that but to keep it simple have the pitcher pitch to the defenseóeasier said than done!!
Example: if a righty is batting and you have 3 fielders on the left side pitch the batter inside-make him pull. Vice versa for a lefty.But there is so so so much more!
Also keep in mind it wonít always work but limiting certain batters options can make a difference
April 4, 2022
stick8
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Cold weather

Use an ASA or USSSA bat if you have access
March 28, 2022
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Batting out of order

Itís pretty simple. If youíre a courtesy runner and your turn to bat comes up while youíre still on base, itís an out and you lose the runner.

March 23, 2022
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: How would you rule the call

Larry if the umpire ruled it a catch, itís a catch! What the left fielder says doesnít matter.
March 9, 2022
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Whatís the Rule

Based on the situation as you described you are correct MurrayW
Dead ball. Batter is awarded first base. Since the runners on base were not forced to move they stay on second and third.
Feb. 28, 2022
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Base runners hit by batted ball

The difference is in baseball the base is not considered a sanctuary to not be called out if a runner occupying said base is struck by a batted ball.
Feb. 21, 2022
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What's the call

I find it totally bizarre that someone would do that to a ball that might roll fair. Did this really happen?
Iíd call dead ball, interference on the on deck batter, the batter is out.
Feb. 20, 2022
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Base runners hit by batted ball

BJ, we use the same rule in One Nation.
And it could be a fielder not touching the ball (a grounder going thru the wickets for example) or touching the ball.
It hasnt happened in a slow pitch game Iíve umpired but it has a couple times in high school baseball games Iíve umpired. Both times we ruled the runner out. In both games itís a judgement call by the umpire.
What seems puzzling to me is iin baseball the batter is awarded a single
Feb. 18, 2022
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Base runners hit by batted ball

Good question. Every slow pitch rulebook Iíve ever read states if a batted ball passes thru a fielder and then hits the runner that runner is not out. Strictly going by that then the rule would be different in slow pitch.

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